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lindsayward Just Startin' 91 posts since
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Nov 20, 2009 8:07 PM

Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

Hi folks,

  I've had my Variax for a couple of years now (love it). I've made a few custom models with Workbench, but not really bothered to try adjusting the settings on the controls page where you can set things like:

Volume Knob Pot Resistance

Tone Knob Pot Resistance

Capacitance

(image: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=180836&d=1127445477)

I think I've got a reasonable idea about the Volume Taper (and I think I prefer the "Audio" option instead of the "Linear" default), but I'd like to learn more about the others.

Could anyone comment on how they use these settings, including when it is good to change from the defaults, and also if there are any pages on the Internet you know of where I can read some more - that would be great!

 

Thanks

  • amx05462 Power User 3,480 posts since
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    Nov 21, 2009 5:12 AM (in response to lindsayward)
    Re: Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

    capacitors   will restrict  high  end  tones.     for  example  .047  gives a deeper(more bass) tone  than .220..  another  example is   i recently changed  capacitors  in a  les paul. it came  throught  with   220s   sound  was tinny specially on the  bridge  pickup. so i looked  up   gibson  and epiphone  specs.    tihis is  for  soap bar p90s. it  will be different  on humbuckers  p94s  etc etc.  they suggested  .047  so i put  them in.  while  getting  a  nice  tone  in  the  two pickup  setting  the  individual pickups   were too dark . ( so i ended up  with 330s  on both  and  the  guitar sounds  great).  the  same  thing applys  in  workbench      its  trial  and  error with  each type of  pickup till you get the  sound  your  looking  for. general  starting  point   i think  would be  .047  for  fender  or single  coil   .022  for  gibson  or  humbuckers.  pot  resistance.  you can  use  any pot  resistance  again  its  trial  and error.  some  people  use  a  combination.   its  manufacturer  preference..   generally  old  style  fender  is  250k  old  style  gibson   is  500 k     newer  fender  and  gibson/ epiphone  is  500k mini pots.   different  pickup sets  come  with  mixed  pots     example  i  just installed   fender  noisless  pickups  in my strat .  the  set came  with  two 500k  for  tone  and  on3 1000 k for volume.   i left  the  large 250ks  i had   in the  guitar already  in  because  they also affect  tone  and  i wanted  to  achieve    the  sound  of  a  58  strat  but  not   pickup all the  ambient  noise  that single coils  pickup.  it worked  well.    the  pickups as  well have  there  own affect  on  sound   you cant  go by   humbucker  or  single  coil  theres  all kinds  of  windings   some  will have  a  set of 3  with  the  center  pickup reverse  wound  to achieve    a humbucking  affect.

     

       bottom  line is   trial  and error.  write  down in a little  notebook  what  changes  you make  and  what you achieve   from it ..  then youll have  a reference  to refer to  rather  than  relying  on memory.

     

         id suggest  the  two books  in the attatched  photos   if you really  want to learn  not only  what you asked  but just about  anything  else.  just   the  knowledge  of  how  to do your own setups  like the  rpos  is  worth  the  price.

     

    have  fun

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      • amx05462 Power User 3,480 posts since
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        Nov 24, 2009 2:52 PM (in response to lindsayward)
        Re: Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

        its  somewhat the  same  but  not as noticable.  the  main thing  when  buying  pots  is  get  the good ones.  more   or less  like i said  500s  for   humbuckers  250  for single coil.   when  i say good  ones    what i mean is  they will  last longer   . they all wear  with time  but  cheap ones  go fast  and  then you get  that scratchy sound  when you turn them  or dead  spots. basicly  ther  an ajustable  reistor . tone  and volume pots  are  the  same  . its  how  you wire  them  that makes them  do what they do.

          • amx05462 Power User 3,480 posts since
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            Nov 25, 2009 4:26 AM (in response to lindsayward)
            Re: Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

            yeah  thats  the  good  thing  about  workbench  you can really  get into coutomizing your  sound   i just thought  that   the  info may help if  some day  you decide  to build  something.

             

              i was telling you about an epiphone  gold  top   i changed  out all the  pots  because  i had  no tone  control.  problem  with  epiphone  is  they use cheap components  to keep  the  price  down   so  i put in  gibson  stuff   the  guitar sounds   great  there  pickups  are good  though.  ive got a  few  epis.  all  have the  same  problems   crappy  electronics  and a  cheap  truss  rod . there  acoustics are  great  thiugh  i just bought  a  ej 200    changed  the  strings  and  set it up.  i never  have  to tune it . it  just  stays  perfect.   its  good   to learn all this  stuff .  you never  know  when  youll need  to fix  something.

             

               the  best  improvement  you can ever  do to your  variax  is  to change  the   pickups  to graph  tech  ghost  pickups.

  • Line6Miller Line 6 11,613 posts since
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    Nov 23, 2009 10:15 AM (in response to lindsayward)
    RE: Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

    Great answer!

       

       

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  • Line6Andy Line 6 4,345 posts since
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    Nov 24, 2009 11:49 AM (in response to lindsayward)
    RE: Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

    As this is a subjective question (not supported by Line 6) we will close this thread, but please feel free to continue the conversation with other end users.   See the following link for more info.

       

      http://www.thegearpage.net/board/archive/index.php/t-59038.html

  • BriHar Just Startin' 118 posts since
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    Dec 4, 2009 4:38 AM (in response to lindsayward)
    Re: Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

    Check out the schematic drawings of a few guitar circuits on  http://alexplorer.net/guitar/mods.html

    • amx05462 Power User 3,480 posts since
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      Dec 4, 2009 5:04 AM (in response to BriHar)
      Re: Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

      hey thanks i been  looking for that page since i got the  new   computer.  i used  to have  it bookmarked  but  lost it   in the  termoil.  lots  of  good  info there  check out  the  links  section  theres  some other good  pages  around  as well

  • Hey_Joe Iknowathingortwo 600 posts since
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    Dec 4, 2009 11:46 AM (in response to lindsayward)
    Re: Workbench - Pot Resistance - help me learn

    lindsayward -

     

    http://www.vettaville.nl/page.php?id=95

     

    Check out the Workbench Tutorials here at Vettaville

    it never got finished but it has some helpful stuff about the tone shaping abilities of the Controls and Pickup editors in WorkBench

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