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kwood Just Startin'
kwood
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Nov 28, 2009 1:42 PM

M9/M13 tempo question

i am thinking about buying either one of these units but i need to know the answer to my question first because it will make or break the deal for me

 

i know you can set each effect to synce with notes/tap tempo

and you can also program in the milliseconds of a single effect

does the "TEMPO" setting where you set a tempo for a specific effect or is it global?

or does it only set the tempo for that particular scene

 

basically i would like to set multiple effects for different tempo because my band plays to tracks and we have a metronome in our ears

so can i preprogram effects one one scene to a certain tempo, then page up to my next scene and the tempo for the next song already programmed?

 

i hope what i am asking makes sense

i am basically wanting to avoid using the tap tempo for anything since we are playing to a preset tempo already

 

p.s. does the looper have built in quantization?

  • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
    phil_m
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    Nov 28, 2009 1:45 PM (in response to kwood)
    Re: M9/M13 tempo question

    The bpm is saved with the scene, and the tap tempo effects all effects that have note value in that scene.  If you switch to a different scene, the tempo resets to the tempo saved with that scene.

     

    There is no quantization with the loop.

    • kwood Just Startin'
      kwood
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      Nov 28, 2009 1:58 PM (in response to phil_m)
      Re: M9/M13 tempo question

      can i get a second confirmation from someone else on this?

      if so, then i am sold!!!

      • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
        phil_m
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        Nov 28, 2009 2:10 PM (in response to kwood)
        Re: M9/M13 tempo question

        What my word's not good enough?

         

        Here's what the Advanced User's Guide says:

         

        A new Tempo parameter has been implemented. When setting up a Scene, enter Setup Mode by pressing and holding the Looper Controls switch, and you’ll see a Tempo setting displayed in BPM in the lower left of the FX2 LCD. To set a specific tempo for your Scene, simply adjust Knob 3. The selected tempo will be stored with your Scene.

        • kwood Just Startin'
          kwood
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          Nov 28, 2009 2:35 PM (in response to phil_m)
          Re: M9/M13 tempo question

          in that case im sold

          i assume that apply's to both M9 and M13 models

          i tried finding that in the manual but i dont think i downloaded the advanced manual though

          • kwood Just Startin'
            kwood
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            Nov 29, 2009 8:11 PM (in response to kwood)
            Re: M9/M13 tempo question

            let me ask another question

            say i want to program 6 delays of different tempos of one scene

            can i do that still?

            • erick4x4 Just Startin'
              erick4x4
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              Dec 1, 2009 3:19 PM (in response to kwood)
              Re: M9/M13 tempo question

              Yes you can do that, but not with BPM, but by milliseconds.

               

              Basically you have 2 choices with every time based effect.

              1) A specific millisecond value

              or

              2) A note value (whole, half, quarter, eight, sixteenth, triplet sixteenth, various dotted, etc) that is synced to the tap tempo or the per scene BPM setting.

               

              So you could have 6 delays with six exact millisecond settings (the math to convert BPM to millisecond is simple). And you could have 6 more delays that all have note values that will sync with the tap or BPM.

               

              Make sense?

              • kwood Just Startin'
                kwood
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                Dec 1, 2009 4:45 PM (in response to erick4x4)
                Re: M9/M13 tempo question

                i have one more question (for now at least )

                 

                how do you know if you M13/M9 is up to date with the current firmware?

                • MaestrosounD Just Startin'
                  MaestrosounD
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                  Dec 2, 2009 1:18 PM (in response to kwood)
                  Re: M9/M13 tempo question

                  With the m13 you can see it in the second screen while tuning. Don't konw 'bout the m9

                • sascha_duex Just Startin'
                  sascha_duex
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                  Dec 3, 2009 12:38 PM (in response to kwood)
                  Re: M9/M13 tempo question

                  AFAIK there is no page that displays the version of the firmware installed on a M9. But it's quite easy to find out whether or not you are running the current version (2.01).

                   

                  Option 1: Search for the "Bass Octaver" Model in the Distortion Models group. If it's there, the current version is installed.

                  Option 2: Chose any slow modulation. Check if hitting the TAP footswitch once restarts the LFO cycle. If yes, the current version is installed.

                   

                  There are also other ways to find out, but this should do :-)

                   

                  Sascha

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