ParkerFlyMajik wrote:

 

I noticed in the videos posted that they are using the same powered AB box and the knobs look the same so at least the peripherals will be available.

For the same reason they never offered a kit, retrofits would not benefit the company so you'll never see them (my prediction anyway).

 

I think Line 6 was on the right track making the majority of their products capable of future upgrades.  I just don't think the market coupled with the rapid advancement of new technology can let that happen on the business side.  It's really not their fault they don't support their gear longer; there's just no money in it.

I will buy the korean guitars if I can rip the guts, battery, and maybe the bridge off to put in an xplant. That way line6 is happy and sell a guitar. . . .even if I never use it. . . lol ..

Line6Renken wrote:

 

toasterdude wrote:

 

dharmafarmer wrote:

 

i asked this question, and the answer i got was thus:

 

Palm muting. Guys, it is a piezo bridge. For now this is something you  have to check out on the new guitar for yourselves.

 

this sounds to me as though it's pretty much more of the same, as far as getting those clunking sounds when you try to do any palm muting type playing. i love my Variax 500, but this problem definitely limits what styles of music you can play on it. i find it funny that they are billing one of the new Variax guitars as a 'shredder's' model, but you wouldn't be able to do any palm muting techniques on it, unless you use the magnetic pickups, which i can do on any one of my other guitars, so why would i grab the Variax, right? how's that for a run on sentence?

 

the above gripe being said, i do find some of the new functions welcome, such as the lithium ion battery and the ability to be able to change tuning in any model on the fly. it's a great guitar for gigging, as long as you aren't doing any 'shredding'.

I don't get the shredder guitar either. Maybe if a shredder wants to use acoustics in a tune? Alt tuning as well but if you can't palm mute, and would have to switch to mags. . . . why not use their "real guitar"?

 

The only guitar that makes total sense to me is the paulish one as the player could replace the pickups with his fave humbuckers or maybe will love the oem ones. Most strat players I know do not like a humbucker in their strats and only do so to get a more humbucker tone but that seems pointless if you have modeled humbuckers. If they built a guitar that looked like a real strat with real strat pickups I could see strat guys buying them to have a "strat" that can also get all these other sounds.

 

clapton

beck

SRV

eric johnson

blackmore

hendrix

ed king

yngwie

buddy guy

henry garza

mark knopfler

 

 

 

I think most of those guys didn't have a humbucker in their "strat". . . . . lol

 

How about you guys wait until you try the new improved guitar before announcing that you can't palm mute? We way improved it and at the Musikmesse guys could tell and we are not done working on it. Also, metal in Europe is huge and the shred guitar was by far the most touched guitar of the three.  J As far as your no humbucker on a strat, there are many hum, single, single guitars out there, including HSS strats. Plus that is what Tyler wants and does on 90% of his guitars based on 35 years of working with some of the world's best most recorded guitarists. Plus it is all part of the look.   The headstock is vaguely in the same ballpark as an rg. Next to each other, not even close. Plus, look at how the pickguard flows into the headstock. I love it and so do a bunch of pro cats that are lining up to buy the USA version.

Rich - I'll apologize first before I continue to write....

Maybe there are a few others out there that think and or know what I'm about to write.

Why can't anyone but ME palm mute a Vax 700?  Why can't anyone but ME play shred style music, palm mute, not clang, plink or any of the other complaints I've been reading since last year when the first Vax forum by Rich R. started up.  I PROVED that MY Vax's DO NOT Clang, Plink and CAN be palm muted with 98% of the same bit of sound as you get from a conventional guitar!!!  I posted it on YouTube many months ago showing an unedited side by side comparison of one of my V700's vs. my $3,000.00 1996 Custom Shop Les Paul Classic with a gorgeous Tiger Maple Flame Top, 60's Slim Taper neck, all standard equipped from pick-ups to tuning pegs (which I hate but left for the collectibility due to the rarity of the Japanese Tiger Maple they only used for the custom shop years 1994 thru 1996.)

So any of you players who are complaining about not being able to palm mute the current Variax, PLEASE just write here what specifically you are doing that is not getting the result you want.  I would like the opportunity to either prove or disprove that you CAN palm mute just as well with the same sound & feel as on any other guitar.  This is not bragging or being an ego-maniac.  I seriously want to work this problem out as I believe it is possible.  I know what I can do with my two Vax 700's, using Workbench, and running through my Vetta combo.  At this point in time, I've had about 7 years of experience with my Vetta and about 5 years with my 700's & Workbench.  this cobination of hardware and software is quite amazing and the new JTV guitars will make the first step towards and even wider and more in depth variety of possibilities.

So if anyone wants to give me something more specific like a song, a band, etc.  I'd love the chance to see if I can get the sound and feel "you" are obviously upset about.  Preferrably something "live" since studio tricks are exactly that - studio tricks.  I know tons of those, but that is not the question here.  Perhaps I CAN find a solution?  Perhaps I CAN be of HELP?  So there it is...my offer to TRY.  Once I know what "you" all are upset about in this matter, I will endeavor to work it out and then post a video on YouTube if I solve the problem.  Or I'll post my results here if I can not manage to work out what's got so many players upset about palm muting, clanging, plinking, or any other characteristic in the current models I own.

I think if I CAN do what I've read these complaints about on the current models I own, then logic says that these new JTV's (any model) will be even BETTER and improve dramatically on what the Vax's can do well now...even shred as one model is nick-named.  Fair enough?

I look forward to hearing back from anyone with any of the listed problems and hope to help solve as many as I can.

Line6Renken wrote:

 

toasterdude wrote:

 

mdmayfield wrote:

 

Listening to this video:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6QVr_3Z9ZE

 

I'm much less confident that the "clang tone" or "plink" has been eliminated. Listen at 2:00 - I believe those are the magnetic pickups. The transients are smooth and the palm muting is clear. But then at 2:20, listen to the attacks on the low E string (detuned to D). Plink plink plink, there goes the same harshness in the 2-3kHz area as on my Variax 500 and transplanted 300.

Yeah. . . .you can hear the difference but it also sounds like maybe he wasn't on a humbucker sound? Maybe a p90 or single coil and maybe that added to the plink. I sure hope so.

Interesting marketing approach. . . .sort of like admitting modeling doesn't sound as good. . . .. so we give you mag pick ups as well?

 

Mags aren't there because they sound better, for sure. Quite the contrary. We have no problem letting people switch back and forth. We did a lot of a/b'ing at the show and guys could hear how great the models sound. Also, a real neck single coil won't sound like a humbucker neck position on a 335, the neck P90 on a Paul junior or the neck pickup in a ric. So you comment is not well thought out.

I have read in the other thread that the new piezos were not in the guitars and that may very well mean no more clang tone and better palm muting etc. I am pretty darn happy with how my vax 1 sounds and am sure will be even happier with JTV.

I am also happy about there being mags and will be adding mags to my current xplant. However the only advantage I see with the mags is doing dual guitars into dual amps via Pod X3 or vetta. I am going to put duncan prails into my xplant and future xplants. They can sound like neck pick up on 335, neck p 90 etc etc etc or pretty darn close.

In fact thos p rails can get so many different tones, I have no doubt my vax xplant will garner way less "what the eff is that" looks.

If I have a cool tele shaped xplant with prails and nobody knew it had vax guts. . . . .many people would not even blink if I was getting a wide variety of tones. The only thing that would turn heads would be alt tunings and acoustic sounds. Right now if I am playing my xplant with no pickups. . . . .I ALWAYS get players asking me how I can get all those sounds and what the eff kind of guitar I am playing.

So in some ways I think having mags takes away a bit of the natural marketing effect of a guitar with no pickups. Of course if you guys realize this and compensate by doing killer videos showing off dual guitars into dual amps. . . . .you may have the "next big thing" guitar wise.

Heck I have 2 exact copies of my rig. x2 wireless, GCX, POD X3 Pro, Peavey Classic 50/50 into avatar 2x12 stereo cab. One rig is in santo domingo where I live and the other in san antonio texas where headquarters is. I am toying with moving to san antonio in 2 years or so, once I get married etc. The idea of using both rigs together as a super rig is so damn cool.

Imagine vax into one X3 Pro with dual amp sounds, while mags go to other x3 Pro with dual amps. Run second pod 10ms or so delayed, add in the 4 effects chains and an Adrenalin III in the loop of each POD and I can hear the wall of sound now. Now if the M13 had VDI and I could put one of those puppies in stereo feeding each POD. . . . . .yikes. . . .