Apr 29, 2010 5:31 AM
POD XT Live & Spider IV 150 - can they connect?
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Just got my all new Spider IV 150 but not sure if I can connect my POD XT Live to it. I've a ton of tones on the stomp board so really would like to be able to hook it up.
Can I do this & if so, how?
Cheers
Kev
Hi
Yes, you can plug the output of your XT Live into the front of your Spider IV150, but remember the XT Live is an amp modeller as well, so you either need to turn off all the amp models and experiment with the Spider IV tones to get the best out of it - this may take some effort on your part and you may not always get the result you expect, and I would advise setting the Spider IV to the cleanest setting you can if you want to work this way.
BUT the Spider IV has a better way to connect an XT Live/X3 Live AND the good bit is that you can connect two guitars simultaneously and even get someone else to jam with you through the same amp.
Using an adapter Y lead to go from two 1/4" jacks to a stereo 3.5mm plug you can plug the left and right outputs from your XT Live into the CD/MP3 input on the amp - you must have a guitar lead plugged in to the normal input or the CD/MP3 input will be muted - and this is likely to give you the best results from your XT Live IMO
Nick
Cheers dude
off to try it now!
Kev
No worries . I have done the CD/MP3 input thing using my X3 Live - haven't tried it with my XT Live though, but there shouldn't be that much difference to cause you any serious problems. The X3 live actually sounded half decent going into the Spider IV 150 this way - and I don't normally like the sound of an X3 Live into anything but a power amp or PA desk. With the XT Live you'll probably need to change the output emulations by experimentation to see which sounds the best. Using the CD/MP3 input bypasses all the FX and amp modelling in the amp of course so you won't benefit from things like Intelligent Harmony when using the XT Live, but you could put an A/B box to switch your guitar between the XT Live input and the Spider amp input for a wider variety of tones. I don't think personally that there's a whole lot to be gained by going into the XT live and then into the amp which has better (IMO) modelling and the same sort of FX as the XT. If you had an acoustic or a Variax guitar you could just have it plugged in ready to go.
Cheers
It's just I think that the Spider amp model tones are lacking compared to the XTLive & as I have a large number of dialled in tones I don't want to lose them. Very happy with amp already but need to either get the XT properly sorted to speak to the amp, upload my tones to the amp &/or get a FBV shortboard.
I really wanted the Laney LX 120RH & 412A, but money dictates & they weren't in stock!
Kev
I think you definitely need the FBV MkII Shortboard without a doubt. you can connect your amp to your laptop/PC/Mac or whatever and then use Spider IV Edit to get your sounds dialled in, and then you can use your XT Live as I outlined with the CD/MP3 input - that's the only way you're going to get closest to a power amp scenario with the Spider as it doesn't have an FX loop. I guess you haven't updated your Spider IV's firmware yet as you don't have an FBV Mk II pedal - when I got mine back in September last year the firmware was at the initial release (1.02 I think) and I thought the sound was generally quite gritty and tinny compared the the Spider III 150 which I still have. I A-B'd the two amps using factory presets of the same name and felt that the Spider III sounded better at first. After I updated the Spider IV firmware to 1.04 (I think) the amp did sound better and then better still with the latest updates (1.51/1.52). Bottom Line is IMO anyway - the Spider IV is a solid state amp and it doesn't have the b*lls of a valve amp but it is nevertheless a good sounding amp and very loud too - and especially for the money ![]()
I could never get on with my X3 Live with a traditional guitar amp - fine with going into a flat EQ desk/powered speakers/PA or whatever but not into the power amp section of a Marshall - too much like hard work to get anywhere near a decent sound. My XT Live however sounds great into a traditional Marshall amp's power amp section.
The XT Live and Spider III I believe are based on older POD 2.0 DSP technology, whilst the Spider IV and Spider Valve MkII are based on X3 Live DSP technology and I still have a liking for the POD 2..0 style sound, so I understand why you say the Spider IV 150 amp tones seem to be a bit lacking. If you update the amp's firmware and use Spider IV Edit though, I think you will be able to get some killer tones out of the amp as it stands and I do believe that it is capable of more tonal variety than the older Spider III and the XT Live - but it will take some work to get there ![]()
Hello,
This information is correct. Please leave points for Nickmatt!
I am trying to connect my pod x3 live to my spider IV amp via the cd/mp3 port without luck. I have a dud jack in the front guitar port and still no luck. Am I missing something?
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