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leewhy18 Just Startin'
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Apr 1, 2009 2:53 AM

help with TOOL tone

Hey I'm wondering if theres any effects wizards out there that could help me out with the Tool song "sober"?  I own an x3 live and I am trying to find a pedal tone and setting for the verses of the song.  I own an epi LP custom with SD JBs in the bridge.  That part of the song when Adam Jones plays is particularly glassy with a lot of ring but its pretty clean.  If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them.

Tags: setup, effects, x3l, tool
  • Apologist Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 3, 2009 7:04 PM (in response to leewhy18)
    Re: help with TOOL tone

    Can you give me a bit more to go on ...like maybe minutes and seconds into song ... I think I know what you're referring to ...where its semi-clean and has the slight vibrato to it.

    • leewhy18 Just Startin'
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      Apr 3, 2009 9:26 PM (in response to Apologist)
      Re: help with TOOL tone

      It would be 0:50-1:17 and 2:11-2:34.  I also know that turning down the volume knob helps to get rid of the distortion.

      • Apologist Iknowathingortwo
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        Apr 4, 2009 7:14 AM (in response to leewhy18)
        Re: help with TOOL tone

        Adam Jones is one of my favs so I love to do his tones.

         

        I have to tell ya though that the Peavey Vypr nails it with its clean channel setting on the Diezel semi-dirty punchy crisp ...very nice ..very easy to dial in.

         

        I'll work on a patch for ya but keep in mind Im using the Podxtl so you will have to adjust for your X3.

         

        I'll use headphones for tone assuming you're using Studio Direct even though I have mine set for Stack Front with Mids set around 700 for cutting through ...thinking about changing that to lower mids since that's what seems to lack when cranked at times ...

         

        At any rate I have lots of work to get done today but I'll work on it at some point today and let ya know when I think it's close and send it to ya.

      • Apologist Iknowathingortwo
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        Apr 4, 2009 6:41 PM (in response to leewhy18)
        Re: help with TOOL tone

        This is an attempt to upload a Dirty and a cleaned up dirty tone for Sober.

         

        I assumed the upload worked even though my PC showed time out error uploading files.

         

        At any rate I hope these work okay for you.

         

        If not tell me what you think is lacking and Ill be happy to try and adjust.

         

        I tried using rotary horn to get tremolo plus warble effect that seems prominate in his semi-dirty clean tone for Sober. It was best I could think of since only one mod can be used at a time .. though I suppose I could try increasing verb and use delay for Mod effect only along with trem? But if this works for ya why bother ...I also put a high gain patch in there turn the flange off if you dont like it or down in the mix if its not subtle enough for you .. I kinda like it in the mix for the song since it sounds like he has slight flange or slow chorus going on gain guitars too in parts.

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  • Insidian Just Startin'
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    Apr 3, 2009 8:31 PM (in response to leewhy18)
    Re: help with TOOL tone

    My old band used to cover that song. I always used some tremolo, chorus, and a bit of flange. Not perfect, but it was close enough.

     

     

  • Apologist Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 4, 2009 6:52 PM (in response to leewhy18)
    Re: help with TOOL tone

    BTWFWIW:

     

    The Blue Compression with treb boost is great for adding glassiness or edge to gain to me it has the perfect high end boost so I have been using it rather than gain stomps and along with the amp's own natural gain to taste. It adds a percusive edgey bite to tones ...I crank the sustain to 100% and the level to 30-50 depending on tone.

    • leewhy18 Just Startin'
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      Apr 5, 2009 9:12 PM (in response to Apologist)
      Re: help with TOOL tone

      Thanks for all the help man I'll give it a whirl and get back to you on how well it works.  I got another question if you got the time.... so I run my X3live thru my spider 3 30 watter.  Is there anything I should consider on the actual amp settings when i plug it into my amp.  I'm guessing I should run it on the "Clean" setting and let the pedal do all the work as far as adding tone and effects.  Am I right???

       

      Lee

      • leewhy18 Just Startin'
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        Apr 7, 2009 7:21 AM (in response to leewhy18)
        Re: help with TOOL tone

        Its pretty close I will have to see what I can do for tweaking to get it closer.  Its missing a lil something but i cant put my finger on it just because i dont know effects that well.  I would describe it kinda needing whatever the Ozzy Osmosis album uses for the song "I just want you" when they play the rhythm.  They also do a lil bit with it in "Ghost behind my eyes".  I got some free time today and i'll monkey around with it but yeah......... a heck of a lot better than what i was using.

  • GORILLA Just Startin'
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    Apr 5, 2009 4:02 PM (in response to leewhy18)
    Re: help with TOOL tone

    Hey, I'll see if I can get ahold of a Guy I made patches for the whole 'Undertow' CD for him. I thought they were good.... and he did too!!! He bought them from me! But they were made on a Pod Pro years ago.

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    Apr 11, 2009 10:00 AM (in response to leewhy18)
    Re: help with TOOL tone

    knowing Tool it could be an overdub. Almost sounds like a Hammond Organ to me. We play the song and when we do people go so Ape S**T I don't think they notice that i use a univibe for that part at all.

    • Apologist Iknowathingortwo
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      Apr 12, 2009 4:38 PM (in response to brianvalve12)
      Re: help with TOOL tone

      Ya know I didnt even think of the univibe ...I was thinking organ like tone and used the swirling speaker horn MOD Ill try another patch with univibe.

      • richj454 Just Startin'
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        Apr 13, 2009 4:15 PM (in response to Apologist)
        Re: help with TOOL tone

        It sound like he is using a leslie in the clean parts of the song. It is set to fast spin on the chording parts and is slowed down for the latter part of the verse ie: "...I will chew it up and leave..." I have a setting on my PODxt for this song and I use the FBV shortboard expression pedal to control the speed of the Rotary Drum/Horn modulation effect. The problem is that rise/fall rate in the effect is too slow for the song but it gets close if you time it right. as far as the amp I use I will have to lok into that when I get home. I will try to send my patches when I get a chance.

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