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MeltdownJam Just Startin' 1 posts since
Aug 3, 2007
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May 17, 2010 11:57 AM

New Video of Tyler Variax (Paulish) featuring Ed DeGenaro (sp) ....

Thought you guys might enjoy this... http://www.vettaville.nl/news.php#1078

 

 

 

MeltdownJam

  • stumpsout Just Startin' 877 posts since
    Jan 28, 2007

    cool

    want

    thanks

  • Nick_Mattocks Expert Line 6 User 8,784 posts since
    Mar 26, 2007

    Thanks for this.  Sounds great - and this is the proto-type!  I'm expecting great things from the production models.  I wonder when we'll see them in the stores (drool....)   Rich has been pretty quiet for a few weeks, so I guess production is underway - or at least starting.

     

    Nick

    • Line6RichRenken Product Dev 1,891 posts since
      Apr 19, 2008

      nickmattocks wrote:

       

      Thanks for this.  Sounds great - and this is the proto-type!  I'm expecting great things from the production models.  I wonder when we'll see them in the stores (drool....)   Rich has been pretty quiet for a few weeks, so I guess production is underway - or at least starting.

       

      Nick

      You are correct, quiet here means crazy getting them into production.

       

      Hey guys, the guitar that Ed has is not a proto type, that was built by our guys. I will be blogging about the chain of command in a coming blog. I am not sure why Ed thought it was a prototype.

  • donfrantz Just Startin' 278 posts since
    Feb 8, 2007

    Very cool--love the 12 strings, and the dogs...

  • mdmayfield Just Startin' 250 posts since
    Feb 24, 2007

    Pardon my ignorance, but who is this gentleman, and how exactly did he come by a Tyler Variax prototype?

    • toasterdude Just Startin' 667 posts since
      Oct 23, 2006

      mdmayfield wrote:

       

      Pardon my ignorance, but who is this gentleman, and how exactly did he come by a Tyler Variax prototype?

      He got it because he is such a line6 power user. . . . oh wait. . . Fractal Power user.

    • johnnyayyy Just Startin' 957 posts since
      Feb 24, 2010

      mdmayfield wrote:

       

      Pardon my ignorance, but who is this gentleman...?

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22ed+degenaro%22

      • MerlinFL Just Startin' 1,089 posts since
        Jul 17, 2007

        Okay - tried the link provided and all that happened was it brought me to the main search page for Google.  I even typed in his name and that didn't produce much better results.  Can you explain what should have happened with this link and what I might be able to learn there?

         

        Thanks.

        • johnnyayyy Just Startin' 957 posts since
          Feb 24, 2010

          MerlinFL wrote:

           

          Okay - tried the link provided and all that happened was it brought me to the main search page for Google.  I even typed in his name and that didn't produce much better results.  Can you explain what should have happened with this link and what I might be able to learn there?

           

          Thanks.

          How very very odd... that link doesn't take ME to google - instead it takes me to lmgtfy.com where lmgtfy.com automatically enters "Ed DeGenaro"  (in quotes!) into a google search form, asks me, "was that so hard?", performs the search and automatically sends me to the google search results for "Ed DeGenaro" where I find "about 6,620 results".

           

          The very first of these 6,620 or so results is www.eddegenaro.com/

          a site where someone interested in learning about Ed DeGenaro might find information like : "Edward DeGenaro is a fusion guitarist whose unique mix of bebop and metal sounds, along with a whole lot of the DeGenaro personality, collectively called the “Nude Guitars” sound, has been compared to the likes of Scott Henderson, Frank Gambale, and Steve Vai. Ed’s journey in music began in Germany, where he was born and raised. At an early age, he studied cello but quickly picked up the guitar..." etc. etc. etc.

           

          Some of the other 6,620 or so pages in those lmgtfy.com results would seem at first glance to contain videos of Ed in action with his band and information on his discography, though I have not actually visited those pages as I am not the one wondering "who is is Ed Degenaro?" and don't really have any interest in knowing more about him.

           

          I do think there is probably enough info in those 6,620 or so results to satisfy even the most Ed DeGenaro obsessed among us.

           

          I posted the lmgtfy.com link (lmgtfy stands for LetMeGoogleThatForYou... hmmm, should have posted a link to lmgtfy that would automatically google "what does lmgtfy stand for?" hahaha, wait, here it is http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+does+lmgtfy+stand+for) 1. to send Mr. Mayfield in the right direction and 2. because I think it is funny that anyone would ask who Ed Degenaro is in this forum when they could just as easily ask google... ( I certainly meant no offense to you, Mr Mayfield -I am a big fan of your youtube vids and watched them all repeatedly when trying to work up the courage to attempt my first Variax transplant...)

           

          As to why and how Ed DeGenaro ended up with a JTV prototype and you and I did not I can only speculate... my theory is he has had some sort of musical career success and critical acclaim you and I have not enjoyed and thus would make a good candidate for beta testing or pre-release purchase due to his high web visibility (has anyone else here googled themselves and gotten 6,620 results?), also some of his other clips are web demos of other products and in the JTV clip I watched he seemed to know what he was doing and seemed to be a decent enough player so it would seem reasonable and appropriate for Line6 to send him a JTV for pre-release review, at least IMO.

           

           

           

           

    • Line6RichRenken Product Dev 1,891 posts since
      Apr 19, 2008

      He is a super good friend, great beta tester, all around lover of all things guitar. Plus close to Line 6 since he moved to SoCal. The guitar he has is our Sound Design guitar that he then takes and uses in real life to give us feedback.

  • davidb7170 Just Startin' 123 posts since
    May 3, 2008

    I found the video interesting. One thing I've noticed in a lot of the vids of the Tyler Vax's (this and the vids from the German music show) is the heavy use of distortion sounds in demonstrating the instruments. They sound good, but in my opinon, you can't really hear the guitar itself to compare the different models unless you hear it more clean.

     

    I have the lowly Vax 300, for about 4 or so years -- and the thing it showed me most was while it is versatile, the quality of the physical guitar is just "ok" at best. I've been a lifelong Fender player -- my first good guitar was a 1973 Tele Deluxe -- still have it 37 years later, and a 1978 Strat I bought used in the early 80's. Love 'em both, but the vax got me thinking about the LP style guitars (the Tele Deluxe was Fender's stab at that world way back then). I was impressed with the overall sound of the HB's and LP sound on the Vax 300, so I went out looking. As a result, I got an Epiphone LP Classic that just felt and sounded "right". The quality of the build of the Epi was quite a bit above the Vax 300 -- sustain, looks, setup, intonation -- everything. As of late, I've had "Gibson envy" and have been looking at the Gibsons again, but am usually stopped short of buying because at 4 times the cost of my Epi, it sounds and plays nowhere close to 4 times as good... I'm a weekender, not a full time pro, so I have a hard time justifying the extra cost just to have the "name". The Epi was made in China, and I was frankly very surprised by the quality of the build. I currently use the Epi LP as may main guitar and use the Vax 300 for special needs of a song like odd tunings, 12 string bits, etc. (about 4 or 5 songs out of a 50 - 60 song set).

     

    My point is, at the cost point of the Tyler Vax production line made in Korea, they are at about the level of a Gibson LP Studio model -- closer to my upper end zone of comfort. The $3000 or $4000 models, are way out of my zone, so won't even be tempting. If the pups are somewhat lacking, they should be fairly easily replaceable with Duncans or whatever brand trips your trigger, and if the "Gotoh-style" tuners are lacking in quality, I'd change 'em as they are really a minor part of the cost at this point. I changed the "Grover-like" "kidney-bean shaped" tuners on the Epi LP to Gibson Modern (all nickel tulip styled) not because the original tuner's were bad, but because I liked the look of the Gibson's better.... It cost me ~$60 to change 'em. Haven't had the need to change the pups, as they sound fine, though I don't rule it out in the future -- tops it would run a couple hundred bucks -- again a relative low cost level, done incrementally...

     

    I like the ability to have real mag pup's along with the Vax modeling technology, a better quality musical instrument, and am hoping the higher processing power of this generation will help out the modeling and lag time of the alt tunings, plus the piezo issues. I'm of course drawn to the LP style 59, but have had a hard time trying to figure out the switching scheme on it as opposed to the strat-ish and shred-ish models which are pretty much stock 5-way switch schemes of the current Vax line and 3-pup strats, etc. I found out through wading through the available vids, where most of the time the demo player is using the strat and shred models, rather than the LP style. I finally found out for the LP type, they're using a standard 3 way pickup switch, for what would be 1-3-5 positions on the standard Vax, then to get the "between positions" 2 and 4, you have to hit one of the lower knobs (I forget which one) and you get what would be positions 2-3-4. Um, it's not a deal breaker for me, yet, but seems it would have been more expedient to simply place a 5-way blade switch in a fairly minor departure from the LP aesthetics for the function of the guitar. The other possibility would be to use or develop a 5-way toggle switch, with 2 axis movement, so the positions would be side to side as well as up and down, so the positions would be:

     

    5

    |

    2 -- 3 -- 4

    |

    1

     

    Just a thought....

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