Currently Being ModeratedOct 27, 2010 12:21 PM (in response to tommy1170)Re: OK - Very Silly Question but I am a POD Newbie - Please help?
I don't have an HD400 - I have the HD500, but I'll give it a go.
- You cannot power the HD400 via the L6 Link cable. You must power the HD400 from the supplied PSU
- The output mode on the HD models is a global setting
- Pass - Line 6 will announce when these amps are available to buy
- Your HD400 should work with your Vetta power amp in sockets but you need to put a dummy jack plug into your Vetta's guitar input
Currently Being ModeratedOct 28, 2010 8:01 AM (in response to Nick_Mattocks)Re: OK - Very Silly Question but I am a POD Newbie - Please help?
Thanks for the answers to my questions. I tried the Vetta input plug last night and it worked. Sound GREAT through the Vetta power amp and 4x12 in stereo.
Any thoughts on making a cable with a power supply? Could this be done. If I was Line 6 I would do it.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 28, 2010 8:37 AM (in response to tommy1170)Re: OK - Very Silly Question but I am a POD Newbie - Please help?
Got a Vetta and will be getting the HD500
1-Is that the best way to go, into the Vetta's FX loop?
2-How do I make a "dummy jack plug into the Vetta's guitar input"
Currently Being ModeratedOct 28, 2010 9:24 AM (in response to Zaserty)Re: OK - Very Silly Question but I am a POD Newbie - Please help?
If you already have a Vetta, with the HD500 you can use the stereo power amp section to plug in the L & R outputs of your HD500, or you can use it using the 4 (or 5 as it's a stereo amp in this case) cable method - with a twist. And that twist is that you don't have to use the effects loop effect in your presets in the HD500. That means that some presets could follow this signal path:
Guitar > HD500 Input
HD500 Left FX Send > Vetta Front Input
Vetta FX Send > HD500 Left FX Return
HD500 Left Output > Vetta Left FX Return and HD500 Right Output > Vetta Right FX Return
So what does that give you?
As long as the HD500 preset you're using has the FX loop included you can effectively place some FX like distorions so they go into the front of your Vetta and then you can use the Vetta's included FX too, and then the HD500's clean FX like reverb, delay and modulation can be placed in the Vetta's FX loop. You'd probably want to turn off amp and cab modelling for any HD500 presets you want routed this way and let the Vetta's modelling handle this. So this is is what's called the 4 Cable Method (with a fifth cable becase we have a stereo power amp in the Vetta). And it doesn't stop there - you can use MIDI Program Change messages to switch patches on the Vetta to line up with your requirements on the HD500.
BUT it doesn't stop there either - if you decide you just want pure HD500 with amp models and cab models to go direct into the Vetta's power amp, you CAN leave all your cables connected as per the 4CM above and simply not include the FX Loop effect in the HD500 presets you want to use like this. As the Vetta's pre-amp section will be bypassed because the HD500 preset currently in use will not have an FX loop and the signal flow will be effectively as follows
Guitar > HD500 Input
HD500 Left Output > Vetta Left FX Return/HD500 Right Output > Vetta Right FX Return
If using a Variax with this type of setup, you would use the VDI input on the HD500 rather than on the Vetta.
You can have an empty preset (or effectively a bypass preset) in the HD500 which would allow you to use just pure Vetta sound.
Tone Suck should not be a real issue.
SHORT ANSWERS HERE
The above setup isn't just restricted to the Vetta - any mono amp with serial FX loop can be wired like this and another amp's power amp section can provide the other half of the stereo if you wish.
- In a shorter answer to your first question - the best way in my opinion to plug the HD500 or any modeller into the Vetta if you're not interested in the possibilities laid out above, is to go direct from the HD500's outputs into the L/R FX Return sockets on the Vetta
- In answer to your second question - a 'dummy jack plug' is simply a 1/4" jack plug with nothing connected to it.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 28, 2010 12:18 PM (in response to Nick_Mattocks)Re: OK - Very Silly Question but I am a POD Newbie - Please help?
Wow Nick, thanks alot for the detailed answer. Cant says thanks enough. Been reading the boards here for a while and u always have great insight.
Since you have so much knowledge maybe u can help me with this one too. Not sure if I should start a new topic....But still its wiring and newbie related so here we go...
Some of the gigs we do we're flown in and we have a backline to use. I usually bring my Vetta HD and use one of their cab but its a pain the butt and I'd like to be able to use the HD500 into the amps provided.
1- Is it possible to have the HD500 go to the board and an amp(for monitoring and I like the feel more than a reg monitor) at the same time?
2- 90% of the time the backline is a variety of Marshalls. To they typically have a serial FX loop? And is there a way to tell?
Currently Being ModeratedDec 11, 2010 8:19 AM (in response to Zaserty)Re: OK - Very Silly Question but I am a POD Newbie - Please help?
1- Is it possible to have the HD500 go to the board and an amp(for monitoring and I like the feel more than a reg monitor) at the same time?............
Yes and No. It is possible to send the XLR Balanced Outputs to the board and the 1/4" unbalanced Outputs to an amp, but unfortunately you cannot split the Studio Mode vs. Live Mode in the Outputs. So you have to sned either Studio Mode or Live Mode to both sets of outputs. Since it's probably most important that you send Studio Mode to the board, that suggests you should use an FRFR monitor (e.g. keyboard amp, or just a power amp/cab - no preamp) for the stage. That will ensure that the sound you hear from your on-stage monitor is the same sound you are sending to the board - not coloured by any preamp in your on-stage monitor.
.... but as usual some of our other Experts - like Nick in particular - have other ideas... See his most recent post on this:
Currently Being ModeratedDec 11, 2010 8:03 AM (in response to Nick_Mattocks)Re: OK - Very Silly Question but I am a POD Newbie - Please help?
This is very helpful! Thanks :)