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Nov 27, 2010 10:51 AM

Stereo output?

I have a question which will clearly prove, for once and for all, that I have still not read the POD X3 Live User Manual, which I promised myself I would do "when I had some free time."

 

I've honestly tried several times and I've even downloaded the manual as a PDF and searched for the terms, "stereo" and "pan," and was unable to find the answer to my question. So, with that out of the way, here's my question:

 

Q: How do I get stereo output from my POD X3 Live?

 

My bandmates and I are going from our effects processors into a mixer and then recording from there. The input to the mixer is a TRS (Tip, Ring, Sleeve) 1/4 inch stereo jack. There are two 1/4" TS (Tip, Sleeve) mono jacks on the POD X3 Live and although I could just go and get an adapter from Radio Shack, this would get me two identical channels of audio; it would just be splitting the mono signal from the POD X3 Live into two identical channels. As advanced as the POD X3 Live is, I'm certain that it must be capable of outputting its wonderful effects in true stereo, isn't that correct? If so, how do I do it?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

   Thanks,

      Scott

Tags: stereo, x3_live
  • grimm26 Just Startin'
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    Nov 27, 2010 11:33 AM (in response to scott93933)
    Re: Stereo output?

    It wouldn't be spliiting an identical signal.  The jacks are labeled left and right for a reason.  If you are using stero effects, you will get stereo.  If you use a dual tone setup and pan one left and one right, you'll get that.

    • scott93933 Just Startin'
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      Nov 27, 2010 12:27 PM (in response to grimm26)
      Re: Stereo output?

      I understand what you're saying, but it's not working. I'm only getting audio from the left channel. If you're getting a different result, then there must be a "stereo output" setting somewhere that you've got set correctly and that I don't have set correctly.

       

      I've even tried using the same tone for Tone 1 and Tone 2 and panning Tone 1 to the left and Tone 2 to the right and I still just get two channels of mono sound.

       

      One thing you said does offer a possible explanation, however. You said, "If you're using stereo effects..." The tone I'm using is one that I downloaded from CustomTone.com and I have no idea if it's stereo or not. I didn't realize that some tones were stereo and others were mono. Is that really the case? If so, is there any way of taking a mono custom tone and tweaking it so that if you use the tweaked version of the tone for Tone 1 and the untweaked version for Tone 2, you'd get at least some stereo effect out of it?

       

      UPDATE

      I've just discovered that I DO get stereo ouput through the headphone jack, but not through the "Live Out" left and right jacks. So now I know that the effects I'm using are stereo, but they're just not being piped to the output jacks the way I want.

       

      Any suggestions?

      • pchapple Just Startin'
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        Nov 29, 2010 1:01 AM (in response to scott93933)
        Re: Stereo output?

        1) You will need an adapter cable with two mono jacks to one stereo jack.  Connect X3L 1/4" L and R to the mono jacks and the stereo one to your mixer.

         

        2) You will need to set your 1/4 OUTPUTS to be "Match Studio/Direct" instead of COMBO FRONT, etc.

         

        3) Panning is then affected by the settings on the STUDIO/DIRECT MIX page (I think!)

         

        4) Set "Live Out Level" switch on the top of the unit to LINE (probably - may depend on your mixer).

         

        See page 5.1 in the handbook for an example setup.

         

        It would be better if your mixer had XLR inputs, as the level match is better.

        • edstar1960 Iknowathingortwo
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          Nov 30, 2010 1:40 AM (in response to pchapple)
          Re: Stereo output?

          Also make sure that in OUTPUTS setting pages that you have the TONE you are using ON and the PAN set to center.  In other words, if using TONE 1, ensure that in OUTPUTS for Studio Direct and for 1/4 Live Out that TONE 1 is set to ON, and that the Pan for Tone1 is set to CENTER.  If the Tone you are using is set to either PAN LEFT or PAN RIGHTin 1/4 Live Out screen (or Studio Direct if you are using the Match Studio Direct Setting) then you will just get audio from one 1/4 Live out as described.  (See Manual 6-2, 6-3, 6-4).

  • namratiugsisats Just Startin'
    namratiugsisats
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    Dec 13, 2010 8:45 PM (in response to scott93933)
    Re: Stereo output?

    It is, just hold down output and pan.  I even record left and right one at a time with the thing.  I'll post a clip of a recording I did with just the x3 live and a variax.  My band is trying to get downloads on itunes for this to hit the Billboard heatseeker charts...it's that pro sounding that I didn't even use an amp for this.  Again, TOTALLY with the x3 live and a variax.

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    • scott93933 Just Startin'
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      Dec 14, 2010 9:00 AM (in response to namratiugsisats)
      Re: Stereo output?

      Wow, you guys sound great! I really like your song; very, very professional. You guys remind me a little of Evanescence. Email me directly if you'd like a detailed critique of the song.

       

      I held down the "Output" button as you suggested, but I didn't see a "Pan" button. I realize that the four black knobs can be used for panning, but I didn't know which one to turn and which setting values are desired.

       

      Overall, I love my POD X3 Live, except for the User Interface on it. It's not at all intuitive to me and I evaluate UIs for a living. I realize that I can use the Gear software to upload and download tone files to my POD X3 Live, but is there software to make changes in routing of the signal as well so that I can make changes (like stereo output) without having to slog through holding down a button, facing North, tapping the power button three times, turning my head to the left, and coughing?

       

      Thanks!

        Scott

      • silverhead Expert Line 6 User
        silverhead
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        Dec 14, 2010 9:02 AM (in response to scott93933)
        Re: Stereo output?

        Actually, it's the last bit of coughing that's screwing things up. You should be hiccupping instead..........

         

        Seriously, though....

        Gearbox is not only the file transfer program - it's also the computer-based editor. You should be able to do what you want within Gearbox.

        • scott93933 Just Startin'
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          Dec 14, 2010 9:40 AM (in response to silverhead)
          Re: Stereo output?

          Ha! I knew I was doing it wrong!

           

          That's good to know that Gear does things other than just tone file management. I'll fire it up and play around with it a bit. Thanks for telling me that!

            - Scott

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