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daveschutt Just Startin'
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Mar 3, 2011 5:40 PM

HD500 Worship Tones wanted :-) ?

Hello-

 

I know there a lot of you out there that have used XT, X3's and like me have probably moved up to the 500 for playing in worship bands through out the world.  You're also probably like me trying to create a lot these common tones or song specific tones now.  So please let's share some. If you have a set list, bundle or individual patches please post them on this thread.  I know Customtone is designed specifically for sharing tones but there haven't been too many posted there yet.

  • matisq Just Startin'
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    Mar 4, 2011 12:42 AM (in response to daveschutt)
    Re: HD500 Worship Tones wanted :-) ?

    daveschutt wrote:

    I know there a lot of you out there that have used XT, X3's and like me have probably moved up to the 500 for playing in worship bands through out the world.

     

    I'm not so sure about this. In Poland we don't have such things like "worship bands". I this this "worship bands" belongs to your country mostly (I assume it's USA).

    Here in Europe bands play for another guy  -> look Behemoth

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    Mar 5, 2011 6:21 AM (in response to daveschutt)
    Re: HD500 Worship Tones wanted :-) ?

    Hi Mastiq-

     

    I would say praise and worship bands are actually one of the largest growing genre's of music out there because the music is becoming much more mainstream.  In the last 10 years the songwriting and musicianship has improved immensely.  I took my kids to a Christian music festival and there was a band there called Red which I had never heard of.  They came out and you'd think you were at a Slayer concert.  Shaved heads, head banging, mosh pit, pyrotechnics the works.  My family hated them but heck one of my favorite bands of all time is Pantera so I was loving it.  If you've never seen a worship band in church go to my churches site www.covechurch.org and click the watch link.  We stream our services, the one that is up now I'm playing in.  White Strat and I'm using my HD500 that night for the first time at the venue.  The opening riff of the first song I'm using a crunch patch with a voicebox, it sounded pretty cool!

     

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    Mar 5, 2011 1:05 PM (in response to daveschutt)
    Re: My set list so far

    matisq, you should get along to a church with a good band. I'm sure you'd like it.

     

    Dave, I checked out your video - sounds good (nice harmony bit the Everlasting God solo)!

    I'll attach my church songs set list so far. It's a work in progress - every week I just make up a tone that suits the songs we have on that day. The names of some might be familiar, perhaps it will help someone or you could give me suggestions for improvement. I'm not usually trying to 'nail' the recording tone but get something I like for that song.

    I go XLR out to the desk in mono so nothing is panned in stereo.

    I've been trying to set each patch so that FS1 is a drive boost (Color Drive mostly), FS4 is a volume boost through a Studio EQ with the gain up 5db (seemed the best way to do it - I used to use the COMP with the X3L). FS2 is often a Mod or something and FS3 is for a solo effect if I have one for that song or delay if there's no solo.

    I'm also trying a few with the pedal controlling the drive, which also pulls the volume down a bit when the drive goes up so it doesn't get too much louder.

    Still looking and experimenting to find what I like best.

    Let me know if you have any comments, and I look forward to finding other people's set lists here later.

     

    Lindsay (guitarist and Music Director at Northreach Baptist Church, Townsville, Australia)

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      Mar 7, 2011 2:09 PM (in response to lindsayward)
      Re: My set list so far

      Thanks so much Lindsay.  That is a great place to start.  I'm finally going to have some time in the next 3 days to dig in and work on the HD.  Could you elaborate on the part where you said this, "I'm also trying a few with the pedal controlling the drive, which also  pulls the volume down a bit when the drive goes up so it doesn't get too  much louder." and you could you tell me one of the patches on your setlist where this is the case?

       

      It's a funny story how that harmonized solo came to fruition.  Usually from our pool of musicians we have "rhythm" guitarists and "lead" guitarists and 1 get's scheduled from each group.  Well that week we were both "lead" guitarists and so I know we both wanted that solo, it was sort of the elephant in the room but neither of us wanted to just take it.  So fortunately the other guy came up with the idea splitting it up into 4 parts.  I thought the harmony at the end sounded cool too and no one's feet got stepped on. As it would be the service they posted for the web was probably the worst of the 3 we played at, LOL!

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        Mar 8, 2011 7:48 AM (in response to daveschutt)
        Re: My set list so far

        Great thread guys but where is the HD tone bundle.I could use them in chuch concerts too.Wroship music is rocking the whole world,Poland,USA & even places like India.Been there done that!

        Has Lincoln got the HD 500? Hope he does & hope we get his bundle.

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          Mar 8, 2011 8:58 AM (in response to jesuscares)
          Re: My set list so far

          Hi-

           

          Lindsay posted a set list a few post above.  That should get you started.  I plan on posting a few things tonight.  Looking on other threads, LB is using the HD500 even though he recorded his last album using the Fractal AxeFx he feels it's a bit too expensive and cumbersome to take out on the road.  Here's some good information from Lincoln Brewster via a fellow Line6 user that attended his seminar in Dayton, OH  http://line6.com/community/message/250806#250806  As of now he hasn't posted any new HD500 patches to his website but hopefully he will sometime soon.  It also looks like the he's using it a bit differently and similarly to what I've been trying to do and that is 1 patch but using the f1~f8 buttons to click on and off effects like a regular pedal board as opposed to setting up several individual patches.

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            Mar 8, 2011 2:54 PM (in response to daveschutt)
            Re: My set list so far

            Thanks for the link.That must have been one great interview I missed.

            • daveschutt Just Startin'
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              Mar 23, 2011 11:47 AM (in response to jesuscares)
              Re: Worship Tones

              Here's my attempt at putting  together a Lincoln Brewster tone based on the information from  fstaunton's post.  I set it up to take advantage of the f1-f8 foot  switch configuration.  This puts the boost at f8 plus the delays on the  lower f5-f7 switches.  I also put in an EQ so you can tweak the tone to  your venue with out having to change the amp settings.  I play an EJ  Strat mostly and that has the tone controls wired similarly to what LB  has on his Strats so I find the the tone sounds good with the bridge  tone control rolled off to about 8.  I built it using Sennheiser 280HD  headphones so there may need to be some adjustments for what it may  sound like live.  I also put a wah on it because I use them often.

               

              Let me know what you think and please repost it if you make some improvements!

               

              UPDATE:  I realized that the f1-f8 layout described above didn't get saved to my patch.  I fixed that, and also created a clean and dirty patch.  I had the opportunity to have the FOH system at our church all to myself on Thursday so I brought in my guitar and HD and sat back at the board and tweaked the patches using the full PA versus headphones.  It was fun and loud!  I still have both patches with Wahs/Volumes.  F8 has boosts and on the clean patch f7 is a Screamer incase you need a little dirt and don't want to change patches.  There's also a delay with a chimey U2'ish setting on both patches.

               

              Dual Tone Added: This tone is similar to the dirty tone but I split the signal and blended a dry clean signal with no amp model with the P-75.  I think it adds nice clarity to the tone.  Let me know what you think!

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        Mar 10, 2011 12:11 AM (in response to daveschutt)
        Re: My set list so far

        I hadn't checked the forums for a while, sorry for the delay.

         

        You can set any of the amp controls to be controlled by the foot pedal, so I have the DRIVE set to EXP-1, with the minimum at 29% and max at 69% (whatever, but it goes up when you rock the pedal up).

        I find that this makes the tone too loud, so you can control the CH VOL with EXP-1 as well, but set the minimum to a value higher than the maximum (min 56%, max 46% on my patch). That way when you rock the pedal up the drive goes up, but the volume goes down. The actual values are just from experimenting.

        You could do this with anything as far as I can tell - e.g. have the pedal make the drive go up, volume go down, delay mix go up, EQ frequency go down... etc. all at the same time. That sounds like fun

         

        E.g. patch "The Greatness of" - (should be) patch 4D in my set list.

         

        I use HD280 headphones at home too. Nice, but I find mostly my patches come out brighter in the venue because the headphones aren't as bright. So I now try and make patches sound a bit dull at home.

         

        Thanks for the new Lincoln Brewster info. I'll look into that.

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      Mar 9, 2011 8:20 PM (in response to lindsayward)
      Re: My set list so far

      Lindsayward-

       

      I noticed that you had Variax Custom-3 progammed into many of your patches. Could you post your tone for the Variax so I could give it a listen just as you have it programmed?

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    Mar 24, 2011 8:31 AM (in response to daveschutt)
    Re: HD500 Worship Tones wanted :-) ?

    This may or not be helpful considering OP.

    I might get around to posting some later but still tweaking them, waiting for that update!

     

    Jesus Culture: (Bridge Humbucker)

    Noise Gate

    Studio EQ - knock down bass, mids +1db, 1.1Khz, cut, 2Khz, left alone

    Screamer - bass cut, mid boost, treble, cut.  Drive 3 oclock, Output 2oclock?

    Tube compressor, (output between 0% and 20%)

    AC30, gain 25-35%, bass: 3oclock, mids: 9clock, treb, pres, 0

    Reverb: Cave, but at low settings to taste

     

    Comment: Noise gate and EQ self explanatory, Screamer to add slight boost and distortion (not much though), Tube compressor to even playing out and boost levels slightly, low gain on AC30 because of weird L6 issues with gain.

     

     


    Hillsong Lead (like Time Has Come)

    Pretty much the same

    But with Digital Delay right before or after AC30 and if you boost the gain on AC30 and increase compressor output, you can drop the screamer.

    I think they use a neck pup though.

    Not sure what settings they're using but sounds like a humbucker?

    I have an HSS strat so I just use bridge.

    So far I can't really nail this one down, think I'm using too much distortion.

     

     

     

    Other stuff you can use are ambient like swells.

    For example, use the JC settings above, but drop screamer and add auto volume (for swell), and after amp split into two signals and have particle verb on left channel (or octoverb), also add two delays in the chain.

     

    Have fun experimenting!

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    May 30, 2011 6:15 PM (in response to daveschutt)
    Re: HD500 Worship Tones wanted :-) ?

    Here are a some more tones from last weekend's service I created.  Please let me know what you think.  I used a Variax so the guitar settings are also built into the patches.  Love The Lord and Time Has Come are very similar but Time Has Come has an ambient delay on it.  I use an FX Loop tied to F4 for a clean boost.  EXP 2 is controlling the channel volume.  Shout Of The King is a dual amp patch which cleans up to a Fender Black Face with the expression pedal heal down and is a heavy overdriven Treadplate with expression pedal toe down.  I used the toe down for the main riff.  Cleaned it up for the verses and used the expression at about 40% for the choruses.  Finally, the son Set A Fire was bluesy gospel song that I had to play a solo in and this lead is a good big solo guitar tone.  Very warm with a lot of sustain.

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    May 31, 2011 6:18 PM (in response to daveschutt)
    Re: HD500 Worship Tones wanted :-) ?

    I would like to get God you reign and EVerlasting God by LB and Hosanna by Hillsong with the solos to please =)

     

     

     

    Thank you!

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    Jun 14, 2012 8:53 AM (in response to daveschutt)
    Re: HD500 Worship Tones wanted :-) ?

    Sorry to resurrect such an old thread but does anyone have these for the HD400?

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    Mar 28, 2013 8:54 AM (in response to daveschutt)
    Re: HD500 Worship Tones wanted :-) ?

    im late to this party. any new tones out there? looking to find a sound like Jimmy Ingram's on the Austin Stone Live worship album.

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