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inblut
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Apr 30, 2009 5:34 AM

4 method cable with a Pod X3Live

Hey,

 

What is this 4 method cable all about?

Can I use this and still use the amp simulations on the pod?

What should I change on the output mode?

My amp has fx loop, so I know that this is possible with my amp.

 

What are the pros & cons?

 

Tk

Inblut

  • Karl_Houseknecht Expert Line 6 User
    Karl_Houseknecht
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    Apr 30, 2009 6:02 AM (in response to inblut)
    Re: 4 method cable with a Pod X3Live

    The Four Cable Method (4CM) is about putting your amp's preamp inside the effects loop of the X3 so that you can put stomp effects in front of the preamp and others after it.  You can still use the POD's amp models by disabling the X3 effects loop, which effectively "turns off" the preamp on your amp.  As far as output modes go, use either of the "poweramp" output modes, stack or combo.

     

    http://benvesco.com/tonemonster/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/diagram.jpg

  • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User
    TheRealZap
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    Apr 30, 2009 6:16 AM (in response to inblut)
    Re: 4 method cable with a Pod X3Live

    some info from the DOCS: http://line6.com/community/docs/DOC-4742

     

    Q: What is the Four cable method?

    A: The “Four Cable” method (4C) can be used for any effect unit that has an effects loop when connecting to an amplifier that has an effects loop (i.e. the POD X3 Live).  This cabling method allows the end-user to place filters and overdrive units before the preamp section of the amplifier, and modulation and delay effects after the effect loop in the effect unit.  This way the amplifier will provide the tones and the Line 6 device will provide the effects (pre and post).  Be sure to enable the effects loop, and experiment with Pre-post effect to decide which method works best for you.

     

    Instrument > X3Live guitar in

    X3Live effect loop send > instrument input of amplifier

    Amplifier effect loop send > X3Live effect loop return

    X3 line output > Amplifier effect loop return.

     

    Q: Can I run the two tones separately, such as one tone for "pre" amp sounds and the other for "post" (i.e. effect loop) sounds?

    A: An “alternate” method of the Four Cable method is to completely separate the front of the amp effects (i.e. filters and overdrives) into Tone 1, and the time based effects (chorus, delay, reverb) in Tone 2.  The tones will need to be panned hard left (1) and hard right (2) in the outputs section (any blending of the tones may result in feedback). Be aware that you will need to have both tones active to get sound, and you need to set up the inputs as follows: Tone 1: Guitar, Tone 2: Aux. Feel free to experiment with the "amp settings" to determine which setting works best for your setup.The connection wiring is:

     

    Instrument > X3Live guitar in

    X3Live Live (left) output > amplifier input

    Amplifier FX loop send > X3Live Aux input

    X3Live (right) output > Amplifier FX loop return

    The Four Cable Method Tutorial Video by Harmony Central!

     

    Video is listed alphabetically under Multi-Effects 
    
                    
    

                    
                    
    
                        
                    
    
                    

                
    

            
    
        
    

        
    


    



    
      
    
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                        Re: 4 method cable with a Pod X3Live
                        

                    
      

                    
      
                        
      Hello
       
      I´ve also tried the 4 cable method solution. I use it in combination with Mesa Boggie Triaxis. Unfortunately there´s a huge hum/noise, especially if I use the high-gain modes of my Triaxis. Is this usual? Any comment on this?
      BTW, One more question. What are the recommended settings with regards to the MIX / send / return functionallity of PODs FX loop. Which setting of MIX is parallel respectively serial?
       
      Thanks for comments
      Mane
       
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