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Stemlife79 Just Startin' 32 posts since
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Jul 23, 2011 12:07 AM

Input Overload?

I recently started to notice that im having a slight "fuzz" coming out when im playing any clean tones. Wether its recording or playing out of a power amp combo, i hear it. It was noticeable when i had to record clean guitars. There was a slight undertone of distortion on the clean setting! Is it because I use active seymour duncan pick ups? Is there a way too cool the signal down? Its alot less noticeable when i hook up a guitar with passive pick ups. Well just wanted to share and see if anyone has experienced anything like this? Should I take it in to get looked at? Help.

 

-stemlife

  • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best 9,065 posts since
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    Jul 23, 2011 12:47 AM (in response to Stemlife79)
    Re: Input Overload?

    You can use the Guitar In switch and experiment with PAD and NORMAL.  PAD should reduce the effect of super hot pickups such as your guitar seems to have.  Rolling the volume control on your guitar back a little bit should lessen the undertone of distortion you're getting and help determine that it is the guitar - as should trying a different guitar or several different guitars that have their stock non-active pickups still installed.   Additionally, a trait of some active pickups is that they can start to give a slightly distorted tone when the battery needs replacement, so if you haven't replaced the battery in a while or you habitually leave the gutar cable plugged in over night when you're not playing the guitar, your battery might be pretty much drained ;-)

     

    What do you have the Output Mode set to when going direct for recording (should be Studio/Direct with cab emulation ON), or Combo Pwr Amp if going direct to the power amp section of a valve combo Cab modelling might be better ON or OFF depending on the combo in use - you'll need to make a judgement call

     

    I doubt whether the problem is with the HD500 TBH, but of course it could be, however you do need to rule the guitar out as a potential cause.  If the guitar's output is simply too hot and is causing some kind of clipping then you might need to get an instrument cable made up that has some in-line attenuation built in (i.e. a resistor in simple terms) but this may roll off some of your desired tone too.  To determine the value of the correct resistor you could make up a simple variable pot plus two jack sockets (one in and one out) in an electronics project box (metal is probably best as it will screen the connections) and put that box in-line with the guitar to HD500 Input, then set it to where the clipping is gone and measure the resistance with the guitar disconnected or you could just use the box as a variable attenuator all the time with that guitar which would be the easiest option.

     

    Nick

      • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best 9,065 posts since
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        Jul 23, 2011 7:31 AM (in response to Stemlife79)
        Re: Input Overload?

        Maybe.  I can't say I know what goes on inside a Dragster's box, but my suggestion is very simple and cheap. You need a box to put it all in - a little die cast metal electronics project box would do it, a couple of 1/4" jack sockets and a potentiometer - not sure of the value needed but probably a 20K Ohm or 50 K Ohm linear pot would be sufficient because I'm only talking about putting a variable resistance in line with the centre core wire of the guitar feed to attenuate the signal rather than wiring it to ground like a normal volume control.  This may suck tone a little bit though, so the Tonebone Dragster may be better (and it should be for $60).

         

        Nick

      • bclarke675 Just Startin' 153 posts since
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        Jul 28, 2011 8:48 AM (in response to Stemlife79)
        Re: Input Overload?

        If you have a treble bleed on your guitar's volume control, lowering your volume there would be the best solution to your issue.

      • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
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        Jul 28, 2011 2:03 PM (in response to Stemlife79)
        Re: Input Overload?

        You might also check your Inputs. If Input 1 is Guitar and Input 2 is Same then there can be some doubling up of the input signal that can contribute to the symptom you describe. Try changing Input 2 to something that is unused.

         

        You might also try adjusting a couple of the Amp Edit parameters, especially the cleaner amps: try increasing the Bias and/or decreasing the Master.

      • ozbadman Gear Head 1,474 posts since
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        Jul 28, 2011 2:09 PM (in response to Stemlife79)
        Re: Input Overload?

        Radial Dragster will have almost no effect on active pickups.

  • Line6Don Line 6 Support 5,274 posts since
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    Jul 28, 2011 8:43 AM (in response to Stemlife79)
    RE: Input Overload?

    Hey Stemlife79,

       

      Sounds like fizzle you are hearing is because your active pickups are slightly clipping the input on the HD. You can try turning down the guitar and adjusting the drive, and channel volume to compensate for this. Or as use a attenuation box of some sort as nickmattocks has suggested to maintain your guitar's settings. In addition you might be able to try and adjust the additional amp parameters settings to try and minimize the fuzz, try adjusting the bias and bias X settings.

  • SyntheticChild Just Startin' 60 posts since
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    Jul 28, 2011 11:08 AM (in response to Stemlife79)
    Re: Input Overload?

    I have the same issue with my active EMG 85/81. I thought it was the pickups at first, but then I tried plugging straight into my amp, bypassing the POD, and the cleans sounded fine. I also tried the 18v mod on the EMGs, which helped, but it made my cleans ridiculously dynamic. Almost like a compressor pumping away. I tired rolling the Vol knob, but that didnt help either. Passive pickups dont clip the POD, only actives. I use the bean, so no input pad for me.

  • Line6Don Line 6 Support 5,274 posts since
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    Aug 1, 2011 11:48 AM (in response to Stemlife79)
    RE: Input Overload?

    Hey Stemlife79,

       

      This ticket is being closed due to lack of response within 72 hours. If you still have questions or are still experiencing an issue please start a new thread and mark the discussion as a question. To do so you can follow the link below and Ask a Question:

       

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