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rsto10 Just Startin'
rsto10
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Feb 8, 2012 6:10 PM

Volume settings for DT25 + HD500?

What in your opinion gives you the best tone regarding volume settings on the DT25 (In full power mode using L6 Link) and HD500?  When you create a patch, do you set your DT25 at the desired master volume level and then adjust the HD500 patch level to a suitable level OR do you max out the patch volume and use the DT master volume to control the level?  Does it matter?  When trying to level out my patches, should I pick a relatively high volume patch, leave the DT at a particular level and just use the patch volume to adjust?  What gives you the best tube tone in a volume suitable for rehearsing/playing small gigs with a drummer? 

 

That all being said, here's what I did - tell me if I'm on the right track:  I plugged my guitar straight into the DT without hooking up the HD500.  I used the suggested settings on the card that came on top of the amp and dialed in the British (II) sound using the same channel volume and master volume (2 o'clock) as shown.  This seems to be a pretty good level as a starting point for where I want to be.  Then, I created a patch on the HD500 using the Park amp model and all the same settings as on the card - with the exception of the patch volume.  I then A/B'd the patch with the direct amp sound and used the patch volume to approximate the same volume.  By switching on and off the amp block, I was able to A/B pretty easy and it appeared to be the same volume as when I went direct to the DT.  Once I had it dialed in with a few small tweaks, it was a dead on match to my ears.

 

Is this similar to what you all are doing?  Do you find 2 o'clock a good place for the DT master volume as far as tube tone goes?  Any input from all of you is greatly appreciated!

Tags: volume, amp, hd500, dt25
  • scotty_burford Just Startin'
    scotty_burford
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    Feb 8, 2012 7:43 PM (in response to rsto10)
    Re: Volume settings for DT25 + HD500?

    I think this is a pretty good way to go because that is what I have done myself!

    I've also had a look at some of the settings that Paul uses in the Anderton's Youtube video, as well as some of the Sean Halley demos. I took a screen shot of some of his settings and applied them to my DT25. Sounded great!

    I then went back and used the HD500 to replicate it. So far I have created some really nice Fender and Park patches using this method.

    • rsto10 Just Startin'
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      Feb 9, 2012 9:54 PM (in response to scotty_burford)
      Re: Volume settings for DT25 + HD500?

      Thanks!  I went back and checked out those videos and they gave me some great ideas too.  I also stumbled upon the Joost Vergoossen video with the link to download all his patches that he uses in the demo.  I downloaded, but I haven't gotten a chance to try them yet.  Thanks again!

  • wolbai Just Startin'
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    Feb 9, 2012 11:55 PM (in response to rsto10)
    Re: Volume settings for DT25 + HD500?

    I have a DT50 - but in terms of patch volume + master volume there should be no difference in principle.

     

    Each Voicing in the DTXX reacts differently to patch volume / master volume combinations.

     

    I see 3 functions for the master volume:

    - it controls the overall volume level (at home, rehearsal, small/bigger gig).

    - it brings your power section into saturation and generates that creamy tube driven distortion.

    - it determines the headroom for clean tones to keep them clean (the higher, the better).

     

    Master volume at 2 o' clock is from my point of view a good level. The power section tubes are under a good load. The DT25 could have some lack of headroom if you have to play very loud clean tones (it is a guess - haven't played one).

     

    I am a strong advocate using a power attenuator when it comes to control the overall volume level by having a consistent tone on nearly all volume levels. But this I think also influenced by the fact that the DT50 is a loud amp in general and you have to crank the master volume level at least to 12 o' clock to bring the amp into saturation fr distortion. This is especially the case with Voicing II (PARK-75).

     

    How you set your patch volume is also a question how you normally control your overall volume in a gigging situation. I use a separate volume pedal and I nearly set all my patch volumes to 12 o' clock. This works for all Voicings quite good. If I need to have more volume during a song I then increase this with my separate volume pedal.

     

    Levelling the volume between the presets is challenging. I do this normally with the mixer volume (not with the patch volume). However, some effects like EQs, delays tend to clip / distort if you increase the mixer volume level to much, if these effects are in the signal chain behind the mixer.

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