bethodla7 wrote:

 

the sound that i want is like malmsteen firts album (rising foce)

Here is what I would do:

1. Set the HD to Studio/Direct Mode and connect the HD to a great set of headphones or some FRFR studio monitors you know you can trust.

2. Build a tone using the same guitar and HD modeled amp/effects as YJM  OR download and tweak one or more of the many YJM HD tones from Customtone http://line6.com/customtone/search/

For the headphones or studio monitors setup you should probably use the FULL versions of the amps when creating your tones, tho some people prefer the PRE version of the JCM800 and have said it sounds closer to a real JCM800.

There is lots of good info on creating/tweaking tones here: http://foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/index.html

3. When it sounds right to you in your headphones or on the FRFR studio monitors it is time to connect the HD to your power amp and Marshall cab and start tweaking at live performance volumes.

4. This is when you will want to start trying different output modes, PRE vs. FULL versions of the amps, with cab enabled and with cab disabled. The goal is to get it to sound as close as possible to the headphone/FRFR version when coming through your power amp/speakers by switching modes, switching to PRE version of amps, emabling/disabling cabs etc., then tweaking more from there as it will never be exactly the same coming through a 4x12 as it was coming through headphones/studio monitors.

I would think the "correct" place to start with your rig would be "Stack Power Amp" mode and with the PRE versions of the amps to match as closely as possible to the results you were getting through the headphones or the studio monitors. If this doesn't sound right I would start trying one change at a time and making note of what made the power amp/cab version of the tone sound more like the headphone/FRFR version and what made things sound less like the headphone/FRFR version of the tone.

There are so many possible combinations of Pre/Full + Mode+ Cab Enabled/disabled to allow for a good sound no matter what you are plugging the HD into, the right combination is in there but it will take some experimentation to find the one that you will be most happy with.

adamf wrote:

 

All the effects the m13 has the 500 has so I think you could get by without another piece of gear.  The 500 is a beast to set up...my set up is using just effects and the 4CM into a Marshall.  If you'll put the time into it it will pay off.  

If I am not mistaken his amp is a power amp only, I would think he would need a decent preamp to go with it or to replace his power amp with a regular guitar head to get a decent sound from the M13... right?