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Martinyp Just Startin' 24 posts since
Dec 10, 2007
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Apr 27, 2012 12:41 PM

Acoustic models

I have just watched the new youtube video with Sean Halley introducing the features of the JTV v1.8 firmware. The acoustic sounds are amazing. I have a JTV-89 / POD HD 500 / DT25 dream rig setup. I plug the guitar into the POD with a VDI cable. The POD connects to the DT25 with an L6 link cable. I turn on the amp and POD, select an acoustic model on the JTV, select an acoustic preset on the POD and start strumming expecting gorgeous tones. Sorry no gorgeous tones. In fact it sounds as if my amp is broken.

 

I have been through EVERY preset on the POD HD500 that even remotely suggest "acoustic" including all the presets in the BASS/ACO/VOC setlist and I am totally lost. Most have no amp selected and the noise that comes out of the DT25 is just muffled rubbish.

 

How can I get the acoustic sounds that Sean demonstrates with just the dream rig? I don't have a mixing desk. I don't have a PA. I don't play gigs. I am not an acoustic purist. I am just a normal person who like to play guitar at home just for the fun of it.

 

Martin

  • listercoleman Just Startin' 12 posts since
    Oct 15, 2007
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    Apr 28, 2012 12:22 PM (in response to Martinyp)
    Re: Acoustic models

    This board seems almost dead. I have 44 views on my thread and not a single post.

     

    I cannot help you as I don't know this guitar or the POD HD-500. But I might have some general help I can offer.

     

    What happens if you run the guitar straight into either your DAW/interface if you have a setup like that ....or just straight into an amp? I found a similar deal to you in that my 600 sounds great into my DAW, not so great into my amps which are all tube....maybe a solid state would sound killer......and it sounds awful into the POD XT Live.

     

    Having said that I have not tried to adjust the POD. Can't be bothered....I really just got it for cheap to use as a way to hook up to the computer. The modeled tones are decent though.

     

    Anyway.... I would imagine the first thing you should do is kill all the effects and then dial the Drive way down so you are not getting distortion. Then I'd try a moderate amount of Treble about 6-ish, put the Bass around 3-5 to start and Mids about 4-7. This might be a good starting point. Dial in from there. Watch the Drive or Gain though..... this is where the distortion will come from. Obviously make sure no overdrive pedal is on anywhere of course. Sorry if these suggestions assume you are a total newb to amps and all .... just covering bases.

     

    Also.....on the XT Live there are patches starting at Bank 17-20 something that are Variax optimized. If the HD has those have you tried them?

     

    If you have a DAW with a S/PDIF input, I reckon you could connect that HD-500 that way as it has a S/PDIF out. This will give you 2 channels (stereo) of pure digital audio going into the DAW. No preamps to color the sound or whatever.

     

    Good luck with it. I wish someone could help me out and answer my thread "Frustrated...." I am going nuts trying to sort out an older setup.

  • mrmykl Just Startin' 24 posts since
    Dec 21, 2007
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    Apr 28, 2012 12:39 PM (in response to Martinyp)
    Re: Acoustic models

    Hey, one simple thing to check it the output setting on the HD500.  It's just to the left of the expression pedal...you can set it for either a PA or amp...set it to amp...also, really, a full range speaker is best designed for the acoustic sounds...I gig with the Tyler and an HD500 and don't even use an amp.  Don't give up, it really is a dream setup...you just have to make it what you want it to be.  You cannot get a more versatile or better sounding guitar.  Nope.  Can't do it.

  • seanhalley Just Startin' 4 posts since
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    May 7, 2012 12:36 PM (in response to Martinyp)
    Re: Acoustic models

    So I'm slow, what can I say? This may be my first post ever on here...

     

    :-)

     

    The idea behind acoustic guitars is that they traditionally do not sound luscious and gorgeous when played through an electric guitar amp. The circuits and speakers of amps intended to be used with Strats and Les Pauls are designed to roll out some frequencies you'd want on an acoustic (most guitar speakers do not reproduce frequencies above 4.5 K much at all), and roll in some that you wouldn't (low mids).

     

    This is proven by the large number of acoustic guitar amplifiers on the market.

     

    The reality is, you need a full-range amplification system to hear acoustic guitars properly - even if that is just headphones. That could mean a PA, a recording into your DAW and out into studio speakers, or some other combination.

     

    The acoustic sounds in the video were recorded directly out of the HD500 - with the amp block dead, no amp selected - straight into Pro Tools. Try starting with a completely empty setup and begin to add elements of what you want to hear. Maybe that's reverb at the end of the chain first, and then maybe an eq early on, and then maybe the tube limter....etc etc...let your ears be the guides you use.

     

    And the other key to being able to get the sounds I did on the video: don't bang away with your right hand :-) Think of the acoustics as females - they're dang sensitve :-) :-)

     

    Hope that helps,

     

    S..

    • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
      Apr 1, 2009
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      May 19, 2012 7:18 AM (in response to Martinyp)
      Re: Acoustic models

      Have you updated your JTV firmware to the latest release v1.82? This allows you to reduce the 'boominess' of the acoustic models by using the Tone knob.

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