Jul 2, 2012 12:03 AM
Advanced amp settings and best compatible combo Amp for POD HD500
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I just bought my PODHD500 a week back I didnt like the distorted presets one bit. Im trying for a nice punchy metal distortion. I'm aware of the amp settings on the First page(drive, mids .. etc). However i was wondering what excatly does turning the pressence knob do to chance the sound of the signal. Also id need some guidance on the other pages of the amp settings. I found that turning up the master setting on the amp settings page(Not the master nob) makes the tone thick n wet. Will this actually sound great on stage when plugged into larger speakers? Also please do guide me on the amp page settings. GEAR: PRS Single cut SE, PODHD500, Marshal MG15dfx. I am also planning on buying a new amp cause my marshals pretty screwed. Should I invest on a power amp, tube combo, or regular solid state combo. Which brand should I think on buying. My main priority is Metal Jamming.
Also is it better to get two amp raher than one for a stereo effect or is one more than sufficient? Taking into consideration that i like using dual amps and stereo FX
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First, forget the presets. They are there to demo the capabilities of the HD500 and generally need a lot of work to make them work for you . You can get additional tones from Customtone (see the link at the the top of the page) or better still, learn how to build your own. If you are serious about understanding how to do this then there is some great information in the guide here, created by a community contributor - Meambobbo. It is heavyweight stuff but there are test tones that you can use as a demo or for real --> http://line6.com/support/thread/71651 . Between that and the Advanced manual (essential and available for download from this site) you will be able to answer most of your questions.
The presence knob effects the very high frequencies (above treble) and affects the 'brightness' of the amp model. This works well for some amps and sounds lousy on others. More details on this in Meambobbo's guide.
The Master (in the amp settings) model's the behaviour of a master control on a real amp and does affect the tone as you describe. The big knob on top just makes the pod louder or quieter without effecting the tone.
On the amp: people here use both real guitar amps and Full range Speakers quite successfuly. It is generally easier to get a good tone from a real amp but when set up right the HD500 into a power amp can be very convincing. The line 6 DT Series does what it says on the tin. Personally, I use a Marshall JVM and it sounds great. Other people use powered speakers such as a QSC K10 with great results. Yet others use a guitar power amp and that works for them.
With stereo ... just be aware that it does not always work well on stage, where people will be standing around the room. It is often better to concentrate on good mono tones. Your call though and other people may differ.
If you are going to invest in an amp I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest purchasing the Line 6 L3t powered speaker ($1199 at Americanmusical.com and if you have a visa or master card debit card you can purchase this on the 5 or 8 monthly payment deal and they go ahead and send it to you). I myself have both the dt50 1x12 amp and the l3t. I purchased the l3t as a floor monitor but the second I decided to see how the HD500 sounded through it was the second my DT50 became my practice amp and that amp sounds fantastic. The l3t when run in floor monitor mode (switch on the power panel allows you to choose between floor monitor, program music, keyboards, guitar, etc...) has the sweetest tightest punchiest sound Ive heard running direct into a powered speaker. It also provides you with limitless stage volume being 1400 watts. I play at Fatcatz on Bourbon Street and several guitarists come up each night asking how I'm getting my tones and sounds and they are blown away by the l3t.I run it in floor monitor mode because I need the high end for the acoustic sounds in the variax. If you are not running a variax then you can run it in guitar mode which the speaker turns its highs way down and changes the frequencies in the 2 x10 speakers to make them act and sound like a 2x12 cabinet. I mean wow this thing is amazing!!
Thanks fo r the info. What is the difference b/w L3t and the L3m? You seem to prefer the 3T?
It really depends on what you're planning on doing. As TheWhites mentioned, if you're using a Variax and wanting to switch between electric and acoustic models, then you're better off going with the Full Range Flat Response (like a PA speaker) option. The Line 6 L3t delivers a lot of versatility on that front. When going with this option, you would run the full amp models in the HD500 because you'll be wanting the full amp, cabinet and mic modelling to deliver the final sound to go to the FOH.
If however, you're not using a Variax or only using the electric guitar tones and want to stick with a combo amp that could be used without the HD500 if you want to just grab an amp and go, then I would stongly recommend the DT50 (if serious gigging volume is needed) or the DT25. What sets these amps apart is that they have been engineered specifically to deliver unmatched amp modelling realism. The way they do this is by enabling you to have an analogue valve power amp section that can adapt itself to match the power amp design of the original amps of the modelled preamps. When you use just the preamp model and select the right power amp configuration in the DT amplifier, it pretty much transforms the DT into the amp being modelled. Not just the tone but the response and feel of the amp are very much like the originals.
Some will argue that this can be done by feeding the preamp models into the effects return of any valve amplifier, but that's not really the case. If you send a Vox AC30 preamp model into a push pull, class A/B power amp, you'll get crossover distortion characteristics that don't exist in a real Vox AC30 or if you put a Marshall JCM800 preamp model into a cathode biased (class A) power amp, you won't get that crossover characteristic from the power amp that is very much a part of the JCM800 tone.
Which of these options do I prefer? Both!!! I use the Variax and switch between electric and acoustic, when I'm doing that, I play into powered PA speakers (like the l3t option). When I'm only playing electric and want the mojo of some awesome amps, then the DT50 is magic. I just love it when modelling the Vox AC30 or Fender Bassman, it's just like playing through the real thing. If I want to just grab an amp and play without the HD500, then the DT50 with just the inbuilt amp modelling is a great "go to" amp. I have a footswitch to select channel A or channel B, so it's plenty playable. So, I can't say that one is better than the other because they aren't, they're just different and serve different purposes.
Anyway, there are quite a few things to take into consideration when making your decision. All we can do is provide some pointers to help you on your way.
Cheers,
Crusty
On the mono, stereo topic. Again, it depends. A guitar/vocal duo using acoustic tones, etc. then stereo. If gigging in a band, you can have your amp as a foldback (mono and dry) while sending a stereo signal to the FOH. But again, it depends on your part in the mix. The wetter the effects, like swirly stereo stuff, the less your part will cut through and your guitar will be sitting well within the mix, like a keyboard filling in that more atmospheric space in the mix. If your guitar part has to stand out from the mix in it's own space, then you'd want a fairly dry tone and if it's distorted, you may want to mix a clean with the distorted tone to put the puch back into it.
Ah, so much to consider.
Cheers,
Crusty
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