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Hopk1ns Just Startin' 15 posts since
Jun 5, 2012
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Jul 6, 2012 3:28 AM

One Guitar to Stereo Output: Methods and Woes

Previously, I have only played live in a band with another guitarist.  Now, I am working on a solo project which will involve lots of crunchy metal rhythm guitar.  Years ago, I spoke to a guitarist in a one-guitar band who said that he uses "a bit of stereo delay to widen the sound".  Later, I bought a Boss BR-8 which had a specific effect called the "doubler" to simulate two hard-panned guitar lines from just one input, the only parameter of which was a short delay (perhaps 5-50ms if I recall correctly), although it did not disclose if this was the only processing.

 

Now I am using a stereo delay on the HD 300 to "widen my sound", and the intention is to use this live.  However, it is not perfect because I have to turn the dry output to zero in order to avoid the drainpipe sound as the hard left and right outputs mix with part of the mono dry output, meaning that I am introducing an additional 20ms latency to my output!  It would be better if I could pan the output hard left and the single, 100% level repeat hard right.

 

I would be interested to hear people's opinion on this - both what I am trying to achieve (i.e. should I  bother? Are there any pitfalls when using this method live?) and on any other methods that I could use to achieve a similar effect (e.g. other stereo effects, or should I get an HD 500 and create two completely different left/right patches?).

 

Thanks in advance.

  • jimsreynolds Power User 2,227 posts since
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    Jul 6, 2012 3:37 AM (in response to Hopk1ns)
    Re: One Guitar to Stereo Output: Methods and Woes

    IMHO that doubler trick tends to muddy things up more than I would like.  It's one of those 'crack' effects that you love when playing alone but then realise it is not really doing much for your tone in a live mix  You can make it slightly more real by making sure that the 'repeat' level is lower than the sent (feedback = ~0%/ Mix = 30-40%).

     

    Personally, I think you get more depth with a bit of actual echo in there (time:  70 - 200ms, feedback:  low, maybe 2-3 repeats, mix: 30-40%). It gives that sense of space without introducing too much colouration and unfriendly harmonics to the original tone.

     

    Each to their own though.

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