Aug 31, 2012 10:36 PM
Why do I need a DT amp if I'm playing through the PA?
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Getting ready to start a band with a bud. Was thinking the dream rig, but with costs a consideration, I'm wondering why not skip the DT25 and just get one of the Stagesource or similar PA cabs. That should give me clean electric and acoustic sounds without having to take an effect send out for the acoustic, right? So it solves a problem too. Right now, I'm planning to monitor onstage with in-ears; alternatively, I guess I'd have a floor monitor of some sort. So what does having the amp buy me? I'm not sure I need one.
BTW, I'll be running a HD PRo rack with a JTV-89US. ![]()
TIA,
Kevin
Hi Kev
If you are only running thru a PA then I'd see no reason for a DTxx amp. I use my DT50 at rehearsal and when I play out we use a "Back line" setup so the singer isn't getting blasted by the stage monitors. I've used my HD500 direct to a PA but when I do all my patches are changed from Pre-amp to full amp settings. Best of luck!!
OK, Bart, thanks for your reply. I guess unless I hear from someone else, I'll skip the amp. Are you happy with the sounds you're getting when running direct out of PA?
Thanks,
Kevin
Hey Kev
Make sure you are using "studio output mode" I run my HD500 thru a DT50 head. I still like having an amp behind me. The HD500 sounds great thru a PA and I have an alternate "setlist" with all duplicate patches but i Use full amp models instead of "pre" for the PA setlist. It's just a backup in case my DT50 craps out.The biggest benefit to running thru a PA is the use of dual amp patches as opposed to "MONO" when running thru a single amp.
Cheers!!!!
"The biggest benefit to running thru a PA is the use of dual amp patches as opposed to "MONO" when running thru a single amp."
Meaning, you can pan left and right a dual tone patch? Essentially, then, run stereo?
Thanks, Bart!
Kev
I've been using an HD500 and DT50 head into a Lopo 2x12 closed back cabinet with V30s for about a year now. I connect the speaker emulated DI from the DT50 head to the board for FOH. Overall it sounds pretty great. I also tried an Avatar 2x12 Contemporary size cab loaded with the Vetta 1 combo speakers. The Avatar cab with those speakers sounds a little woofy on the low end, but pretty easy to control by using an eq to dial out some of the low frequencies. I like the Lopo cab with V30s better.
The DT50 has more than enough power for any venue I've played and since I'm only using it as backline stage monitor it is overkill. A significant problem is that the DI is connected to the master volume on the amp. If I change the volume to adjust my stage sound it changes the FOH feed. It became a hassle so I decided to try using just a FRFR powered speaker as my monitor.
I can run from the HD500 to the FRFR speaker and daisy chain from it to the board for FOH. I use the FRFR speaker volume control for monitor level without affecting the feed level going to FOH. I had to recreate all my patches for FRFR setup and like it very much.
I also tried a Tech21 Power Engine 60. It has a different voice than a FRFR speaker, but it also works great. I use the PE60 as my monitor and connect it to the FRFR speaker setup on a stand to side fill the stage so the rest of my band can hear my guitar better.
I've done two gigs with this setup and everyone likes it better than the DT50. The tone through FOH is great and the band is happy. It looks like I'm going to retire the DT50 and sell it to get another guitar.
Gosh, I know I should know what FRFR is but I don't. What are you referring to Paul?
Thanks,
Kev
FRFR=Full Range Flat Response. Home stereo speakers will typically emphasize bass and treble. Guiter speakers usually emphasize mids. A studio monitor and high quality PA speakers are usually designed to be flat response. That is desirable with a modeler so you can get a more accurate representation of the modeled sound.
OK, cool. Thanks Paul. That's why I bought the Traynor to play my X3 through.
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