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tonymdm Just Startin' 8 posts since
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Oct 20, 2012 4:54 PM

Pod HD Pro wet/dry recording

Hey guys,I was thinking of buying the pod HD pro until I learned that it cannot record a wet and dry signal simultaneously (which seems ridculous that feature would be on models like the ux1 but not this). I am just wondering if there is an alternative way to set up the HD pro to do this, or if I should go with the pod x3 pro instead.

 

I was thinking a way to do this would be to put podfarm plugins on the tracks before I record, so as I'm recording the dry signal only, I would be able to monitor and and playback the tracks as a processed signal? But even that sounds like a hassle. Would I be better off going with the x3 pro?

  • merdenoms74 Just Startin' 20 posts since
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    Oct 20, 2012 5:07 PM (in response to tonymdm)
    Re: Pod HD Pro wet/dry recording

    I'm a bit confused by the wording of your question - since it's your DAW that does the recording, not the HD. The HD Pro has a separate 'dry through' output, however, so it is possible to send a wet and dry signal at the same time. You would need to a have an interface and DAW that could deal with two separate signals though.

  • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
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    Oct 20, 2012 5:21 PM (in response to tonymdm)
    Re: Pod HD Pro wet/dry recording

    The Pod HD series is designed primarily for live play of electric guitars. It lacks some studio features that the X3 series has, particularly a dry signal over usb, as well as some vocal and acoustic guitar support as built-in presets. It is also not straightforward to record Dual Tones, as it is in the X3. If you are primarily interested in studio work, and want to use the Line 6 usb connection as the recording interface I would go with the X3, either X3 Live or X3 Pro. These devices also have the advantage of sharing tones/presets with the Line 6 plugin, Pod Farm (in some cases the direct tone transfer is limited due to some Pod Farm 2 features that the X3 cannot reproduce). There is no Line 6 plugin that will reproduce the Pod HD tones.

     

    Having said that, the Pod HD tones are far superior to the X3 tones. If you want to take best advantage of this in a studio situation you will need a separate audio interface to your DAW - one that supports multi-channel I/O (the UX1 is not it). With that you can connect the HD Pro Dry Out to one channel input, the HD Pro analog outputs to another (mono or stereo) input channel, and depending on the capabilities of your interface, record the dry and wet signals simultaenously in your DAW while monitoring the wet signal via the HD Pro headphones. After recording the dry signal you can re-amp using the HD Pro and the two independent channels of your DAW - one for output of the dry signal to the HD Pro, and the other to accept the HD Pro outputs as an input. This will allow you to avoid the feedback loop that you face with a single-channel interface.

     

    Hope this helps.

      • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
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        Oct 20, 2012 5:29 PM (in response to tonymdm)
        Re: Pod HD Pro wet/dry recording

        You're almost right - but the UX2 won't do it either. You need two independent channels - not just two inputs. For re-amping purpsoes using the HD Pro you need an audio interface that will keep the previously recorded dry signal (whihch it accepts from your DAW and sends to the HD Pro for processing) completely separate from the input signal it will receive from your POD HD Pro outputs after the Pod has processed the signal. These have to be kept separate - otherwise you will encounter a feedback loop in your audio interface. So you need a two-channel (not two-input) interface. And don't confuse the L and R input/output pair as two channels - they comprise a single stereo channel.

      • merdenoms74 Just Startin' 20 posts since
        Dec 23, 2007
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        Oct 20, 2012 5:53 PM (in response to tonymdm)
        Re: Pod HD Pro wet/dry recording

        I just had a play around with this in Logic- I've only had my Pro for a couple of days.

         

        The good news is that, provided your DAW can record two inputs at once, you can record wet and dry onto two separate tracks at the same time.

         

        1. Take a patch lead from Dry Out to Line In L.

        2. Set up a dual tone patch with an amp and fx on the right side only (the bottom chain in HD Pro Edit). Make sure your channels in the HD mixer are panned hard left and right.

        3. Set up Two tracks to record in your DAW. Set one track up to receive Input 1 and the other  Input 2.

         

        One of the tracks will record wet and the other dry.  I reamped the dry signal with Pod Farm and it sounds great!

        • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
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          Oct 20, 2012 7:12 PM (in response to merdenoms74)
          Re: Pod HD Pro wet/dry recording

          Yep - the recording end is fine with only one stereo channel (L and R recorded on separate tracks). It's the re-amping using the Pod HD that requires two independent channels. Pod Farm has great tones - they're just not the HD tones. And you will also notice that any stereo FX you are using in your guitar tone are lost when you pan it hard L/R. Panning it hard R does not mono-ize the signal; it just means you are getting 100% of the R stereo signal and 0% of the L.

  • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo 1,702 posts since
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