Currently Being ModeratedDec 20, 2012 6:15 AM (in response to kool-dude)Re: No high-gain models for us? =(
I don't miss any high gain model, because I've got a HD500 ;-)
Plugin you JTV 69 in a high gain amp or a POD and enjoy high gain sounds.
I also got JTV 69 LPB and like the vintage sounds. I think a high-gain sound
should be produced by the amp. The guitar should provide guitar sounds!
Just my 2 cents.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 20, 2012 6:16 AM (in response to kool-dude)Re: No high-gain models for us? =(
The only way Line 6 sees feature requests is if they're submitted here: http://line6.com/company/contact/productfeedback/
I do kind of agree with you that they probably should just make the new model available to all JTV owners. I don't think there would be anything preventing them from doing it, but I don't know for sure. I'd also be interested in hearing how the new model compares to the existing Les Paul model.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 20, 2012 7:15 AM (in response to kool-dude)Re: No high-gain models for us? =(
the high gain models, are models of the 89 pickups... with the lester and the spank... the 59 and 69 already kind of had this feature (comparable models of their regular pickups)
so i believe that's why the 89 users were given those first...
i would not be surprised if the rest of us get those high gain models eventually....
i think they just wanted the feedback from the 89 users to refine them before hand...
lots of speculation here... but i don't think it's likely to fall too far off the mark.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 20, 2012 12:02 PM (in response to kool-dude)Re: No high-gain models for us? =(
A couple of "educated speculations" about this.
- I think it's very likely that Line 6 will eventually make these (and, probably more) pickup models available to the other JTV models, sooner or later. If they could sell virtual pickups, that would give them some extra cash flow in exchange for R&D that they've mostly already finished in modeling the original Variax pickup models.
- In order for them to integrate more pickups naturally into the Variax, they need to alter Variax Workbench to accommodate them. That's more complicated than it seems. Variax Workbench was made for the original Variax, and it's likely (I'm inferring, since it is taking so long) that Workbench was not originally made with easy extensibilty in mind, so they are having to rewrite / make major revisions to parts of it.
I'd also say that, since the high-gain pickups are hard-coded into the JTV-89's "Custom 2" bank, and you can't access them in workbench at all, that lends some more supporting evidence to the second theory.
Of course it's human nature to feel jealous, or think of what you've got as being "less," when someone else gets more. But try to remember your goal: to make music! You've still got a good guitar that you can make music with, and you never know what might be in store for a future update.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 21, 2012 2:13 PM (in response to mdmayfield)Re: No high-gain models for us? =(
The new models in the JTV 89 are models of its own pickups, indeed, and that makes them as different from the LP models as the actual pickups on the 89 are from the LP's. They sound clearer, and have more bite.
I also think there will be models of the different JTV versions, maybe available across the whole JTV range, and maybe even different, new pickups, from other guitars or brands like EMG, DiMarzio, Duncan, etc... my two cents worth of speculation...
Who knows? ...well, they know, and they won't tell
On the subject of "fairness", I am one of the "favored" right now, because I have a JTV 89, and now I have modelled pickups that are similar (almost there, not spot on) to the real ones and can be used with alternate tunings, same as every 59 and 69 owner has had from the start. I suppose we'll all get new updates that will make us equal again. Same thing happened with the recent updates in the HD series: HD400 and 300 got the Soldano models before the HD500, desktop and pro versions, so, give them time.