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#1 stratchamp

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 04:43 AM

So whenever I use two amps in a patch on the HD500, I am unable to pan them hard left and right for true stereo sound.  I have the inputs setup like this: Input 1, Guitar; Input 2, Same.  Both channels in the mixer are set at 0db, which is default.  The left channel, or amp "a", will pan all the way left like it should, but the right channel, amp "b", will not pan hard right like it should.  

 

I remember when I first purchased the HD500 they would pan hard left and right just fine, but now they will not.

 

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?


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#2 hurghanico

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:05 AM

So whenever I use two amps in a patch on the HD500, I am unable to pan them hard left and right for true stereo sound.  I have the inputs setup like this: Input 1, Guitar; Input 2, Same.  Both channels in the mixer are set at 0db, which is default.  The left channel, or amp "a", will pan all the way left like it should, but the right channel, amp "b", will not pan hard right like it should.  

 

I remember when I first purchased the HD500 they would pan hard left and right just fine, but now they will not.

 

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

 

just in case, the 2 cables to connect your POD outputs to the mixer are both ok?


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#3 stratchamp

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:09 AM

just in case, are you using 2 cables to connect your POD outputs to the mixer, and also are both cables ok?

Actually, I was talking about the internal mixer in the HD500.  But yes, I have two cables connected to the left and right outputs of the pod going into a small mixer that is able to run stereo.


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#4 hurghanico

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:17 AM

Actually, I was talking about the internal mixer in the HD500.  But yes, I have two cables connected to the left and right outputs of the pod going into a small mixer that is able to run stereo.

 

ok, then, if you HD500 mixer pan settings are set as you want (hard L and R for path A an B respectively) for me it means the problem is in the connections to your external mixer or in its settings


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#5 stratchamp

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:21 AM

ok, then, if you HD500 mixer pan settings are set as you want (hard L and R for path A an B respectively) for me it means the problem is in the connections to your external mixer or in its settings

I don't think the external mixer I'm connecting it to is the problem, because even when I connect the headphones the "phones" output on the pod, the problem still exists. 

 

I think I'm going to try a factory reset and see if that fixes the problem.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:13 AM

It didn't seem to help at all.  

 

Oh well, I'll just stick with panning to center.


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#7 Triryche

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:18 AM

Are you sure it's not something in your signal chain after the mixer?


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#8 Astaroth_CY

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:20 AM

Just create a new tone from scratch and use two different amp models.


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#9 mazuwa

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:29 PM

For checking you can attach your preset (under More Reply Options).
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:42 PM

Ok, I'll attach my preset when I get a chance later today.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:53 PM

It says I am "not permitted to upload this kind of file" when trying to upload my HD500 preset.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:00 PM

I use POD HD with dual signals panned hard left and right all the time. Need to check your blocks. If you have a drive before the amps it may sum to mono, as does other effects.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:04 PM

This doc should help determine which of your FX are summing to mono.

 

http://line6.com/sup... FX (HD500).pdf


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#14 stratchamp

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:22 PM

I appreciate the help, but even without using any effects it still won't pan left and right like it should.  

 

The patch I am trying to upload has the twin reverb on channel "a", and the Hiwatt on channel "b."  Both are the same volume and are panned left and right respectively.  I have input 1 guitar, and input 2 "same."  So with those settings and the pan knobs 100% left and right, the sound is still in the center. I know it's not my headphones because music will play just fine in stereo.  


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#15 Astaroth_CY

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:33 PM

Please explain how you have verified that panning right is not working. E.g. have you tried muting one or the other channel and seeing which side has signal? You need to explain exactly how you are identifying your problem.


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#16 mazuwa

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:48 PM

Hi Stratchamp. Please post your preset. Before you attach the file you must rename the file extender from .h5e to .pdf or so! You can also upload it temporarily in Customtone and give us the link. Later you can delete the file again from Customtone.

Then we will see if your preset is ok. If it is then you can try a firmware reflash without keeping your presets, finally do a Global Reset and Pedal Calibration, and finally take a look at  at your System settings (ps: Factory Reset is only in HD300/400).

If you do so, you should not forget to save all your presets over HD500 Edit as a bundle before.


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 01:16 AM

It says I am "not permitted to upload this kind of file" when trying to upload my HD500 preset.


just compress into a zip file and you will able to upload it
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Posted 23 June 2013 - 10:51 AM

Ok, here is the patch.  It's just a basic dual amp setup with no other effects added.  Even with the pan controls left and right, it still is dead center through my headphones.  Feel free to make any adjustments if I am not doing it correctly.  Remember, I am trying to get amp "a" to pan hard left and amp "b" to pan hard right for a separate stereo sound.

 

Thanks for the help so far.

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#19 mazuwa

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:09 AM

Hi Stratchamp,

Your preset is o.k.. My Pod HD 500 does pan hard left and hard right with your file, so I can hear amp 1 only left side, and amp 2 only on right side.

Please save your presets as a bundle over HD500 Edit software, then do a Global Reset and Pedal Calibration.
http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2222
http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2223

If this doesn't help then do a firmware reflash saying NOT to keep your presets, then again Global Reset and Pedal Calibration.

Ps.: You amp's volume knobs here are not loud enough. You can turn the volume knobs higher. I'd say at least 50%.
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#20 stratchamp

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 01:16 PM

Hi Stratchamp,

Your preset is o.k.. My Pod HD 500 does pan hard left and hard right with your file, so I can hear amp 1 only left side, and amp 2 only on right side.

Please save your presets as a bundle over HD500 Edit software, then do a Global Reset and Pedal Calibration.
http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2222
http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2223

If this doesn't help then do a firmware reflash saying NOT to keep your presets, then again Global Reset and Pedal Calibration.

Ps.: You amp's volume knobs here are not loud enough. You can turn the volume knobs higher. I'd say at least 50%.

Thanks, I'll try a reset and report back.


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#21 stratchamp

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 02:56 PM

I reset the firmware on my pod, did a global reset, and calibrated the expression pedal. After messing around, I found that when using two clean amps in stereo, it sounds like it is center. When using two medium gain amps in stereo, I get the separation that I want. Thanks again for the help.

Mods can mark this thread as "solved."
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#22 hurghanico

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 04:17 PM

Mods can mark this thread as "solved."

 

it's up to you to mark as "solved" or "answered"

there is a button for that


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#23 Astaroth_CY

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 09:14 PM

Sigh. I wish people would go through some obvious troubleshooting by themselves before coming here...


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#24 akshayahlawat

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 05:57 AM

So did this help? Because I am having the same problem with my Pod HD400.


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#25 Astaroth_CY

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 05:58 AM

So did this help? Because I am having the same problem with my Pod HD400.

Yes, read the top of this page.
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#26 ThrillingTwo

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

This happened with a patch of mine tonight.  I actually have a couple of others with the same issue, I just decided to try to solve this one tonight.

Anyway, after I did the obvious settings checks, mono-sum, etc., still couldn't figure out why it would not spread out.  I had 2 empty FX blocks at the end of my chain so I dragged one behind the amp in Ch A and Bang! There they were, both channels panned hard in both the left and right sides.  I don't get it.  But it works now.


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#27 MIKEY9966

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 08:56 AM

Same thing is capping to me after work great for over two years one amp works one dose not paning dose not work I will try this when I get home but its strange after all this time this happens, , any sugestions thanks
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#28 MIKEY9966

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 08:58 AM

Sigh. I wish people would go through some obvious troubleshooting by themselves before coming here...


Well that's what the frorm is for some time people help the help maybe you should go read something else if this makes you upset
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