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Assigning Controller Min/Max Values... Tip


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For years I have been mainly editing the HD500 directly on the unit, and for years I have been using Expression 1 to go between a couple of States - typically a cleaner to more distorted sound with effects and tone/eq being changed.

 

And every time I did this I would keep going back into the Assign Controllers view to tweak the Min and Max values for every setting (and there were often quite a few of these, so I had to write them down).

 

Then accidentally last night I discovered that I had been wasting a lot of time, because it really is a LOT simpler than that...

 

You do need to go into the Assign Controllers page to associate a Parameter with a Controller (e.g. Exp 1), but once that is done the HD500 will automatically update the Min and Max values based on where the Controller is and you editing the parameter value.

 

For example set Amp Gain to Exp 1 - leave Min and Max at 50%. Rock Exp 1 to heal down and turn the Gain knob to say 9am, rock Exp to toe down and turn the Gain knob to 4pm. Now rock Exp 1 back and forth and watch the value of Gain.. I now varies between the 9am and 4pm range!

 

This works for all of the assignable parameters, not just the main Amp knobs.

 

Well done Line 6 for providing a really intuitive method for editing, wish I had discovered it years ago

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And then yesterday it didn't work.

 

I know that I didn't imagine it, so there must be some sort of mode where it works and I just didn't work out how to get into that mode.  Anybody else managed to to get an HD500 working like this? And perhaps anybody know how to repeatedly get it into this mode?

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And then yesterday it didn't work.

 

I know that I didn't imagine it, so there must be some sort of mode where it works and I just didn't work out how to get into that mode. Anybody else managed to to get an HD500 working like this? And perhaps anybody know how to repeatedly get it into this mode?

Doesn't work for me either...if there's a setting somewhere that changes how it behaves, it's news to me.

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Then two hours later I was creating a new patch... and it worked again! Specifically on a brand new patch immediately after assigning the controller for the first time.

 

Specifically I added a Tube Comp post amp and linked Exp2 to the Level so that I could control a bit of boost on the final output.

Wasn't sure what to set Max to to get the right amount of boost, but I was able to change the Min and Max values by moving Exp 2 from heel down to toe down and changing the value using No 4 knob while not in the Controller Assignment page.

 

I was too busy trying to get the patch sounding good to try and work out exactly what combination of things enabled and disabled it from working.

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Then two hours later I was creating a new patch... and it worked again! Specifically on a brand new patch immediately after assigning the controller for the first time.

 

Specifically I added a Tube Comp post amp and linked Exp2 to the Level so that I could control a bit of boost on the final output.

Wasn't sure what to set Max to to get the right amount of boost, but I was able to change the Min and Max values by moving Exp 2 from heel down to toe down and changing the value using No 4 knob while not in the Controller Assignment page.

 

I was too busy trying to get the patch sounding good to try and work out exactly what combination of things enabled and disabled it from working.

 

If it comes and goes, it smells like a bug in the software somewhere.

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Found this clip in the HD500 Advanced Guide v2.10 page 3-10 today - does it explain the behaviour you have experienced?

 

Note: When a Controller is assigned to any FX Model parameter, manually editing this parameter’s value will result in changing the Controller’s MIN or MAX value. For example, if the EXP-1 Pedal Controller is assigned to a Wah FX Model’s Position parameter, select the Wah Model, go to its Edit View screen, and select the Position parameter. If you turn multifunction knob #4 when the Pedal is near the "heel" position, the MIN value is adjusted. If you turn the knob when the Pedal is near the "Toe" position, the MAX value is adjusted.

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Yes that's it exactly - so it has to be the Edit screen then; just having the effect selected and seeing a single parameter is not enough, you have to be able to see all of the parameters (or be on one of the screens in the case of an Amp) 

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Thank you edstar1960: I knew I had read this somewhere in the manual too. By the way I traded up to the hd500x from the hd 400 , because of this excellent ability to program your own fx parameters to the expression pedal , and sweep an effect parameter.

It really was a short coming on the 400 model.

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