what some people doesn't realize is that the HD series is a totally different class quality compared to the previous modelers
the new quality HD models need much more memory and dsp/cpu resources than the older ones
This makes no sense...the DSP/CPU can handle the bigger more in-depth algorithms of the HD models, but some how can no longer keep up with processing the smaller/less in-depth ones of the past. This is exactly what I'm pointing out...we've upgraded from a Intel 2 core to 4 core, but can't run the old modeling equations because the processor is too fast??
hardware memory and powerful cpu cost money
so for the price you pay for the HD you get some of the best models avaible but not as much models as with the previous modelers..
Memory may cost money, but these algorithms are not that big (the older ones especially) and if the old CPU was capable of running the older amp models, the new one surely can too.
if you need more you should pay more and you could buy an axe-fx or a kemper, which have about the same sound quality but offer much more models.. all this seems quite logic to me.. if the best quality is not so important for you and you prefer the quantity, you can still use the XT
With the AXE-FX II you're not just paying for more....you're paying for more HD models. I'm not asking for 56 more HD models, just that they include the ones that they haven't upgraded yet...that R&D has already been done, it costs them nothing to include in the unit.
PS. putting together HD models and SD models as you call them in the same device IMO would give as result a weird hybrid thing and personally I wouldn't like it at all, I prefer much more to get just a few top quality things for the money I pay for
from what I know none of the previous Line6 modelers has ever been backward compatible, so no disappointed expectation in this regard
The X3 had all the same amps as the XT...albeit you couldn't just import the your patches. It might only be weird had you never owned the previous gear and were starting from scratch. For the rest of us 2/3rds of the amps are gone and we've been told to 'shut up and deal with it'. That's not going to win back customers.
I get it...folks either just joined the Line 6 club and started from scratch and therefore don't get it or they were one of the lucky ones who was already using one of the amp models that received an HD upgrade. If so, they will never know how frustrating it is to try to model an amp which has specific characteristics to it. How many people asked for the Soldano? Where is the JCM 2000...where is the 5150?! Give us the old ones then...because right now we have nothing. It could all have been avoided if the engineers had built the HD with backwards compatibility in mind.
i wonder what the percentage of hd user, who are satisfied with the performance of the hd, to the users who are disappointed with the performance of the hd.
You would have to go deeper than that and determine if they were upgrading from previous Line 6 gear or something else, or first timer. How about those that never made the switch or went with BOSS or something else...or those that just kept their old gear waiting for something better...that'll never be captured because none of them are on this forum. The sales figures might be a bit telling compared to previous models, but too many variables.
This shouldn't even be a discussion. Get the HD and be prepared to spend time learning how to use it. Like hurghanico posted "It's not a toy for children, it's a serious tool to build your tones". At first I went crazy trying to understand how to get the tones I wanted, but once the light bulb went on I couldn't be happier.
You're getting 100 effects, over 22 amps, and a bunch of mics and cabs that you can route and configure any way you want. Then on top of that it can be inserted multiple diffreant ways into whatever amp(s) you're using. Yeah it takes a while to get it sounding right. Yeah they'res a quirk or two like Input1 and 2 being set to differant things and the EQ interface that kind'a sucks. But there's a lot of helpful people on this forum to get you through that.
Typical response 'shut up and color'. Learn how to use it, really? I'm not a noob, I've been using Line 6 stuff for years now, the learning curve is behind me. My point is that it would not have been that hard to include the amps they abadoned, that use much less processing power, along side the HD ones that they upgraded. The JCM800 doesn't do it for me...sorry, its a bridge too far for the sound I'm looking for, even despite all the good mics, cabs, compression. Perhaps its the crappy EQ choices that are hindering me in the HD, but its frustrating when I could get a sound I liked with an 'inferior' piece of hardware made by the same company.