kensmith5 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'm considering purchasing a HD 500x to use at church because it's an all in ear system and I'm thinking of just going direct out of the HD 500 into the mixing consule. Problem is the sound system is mono (old system). Can anyone confirm that the left side on the direct out on the HD 500x is a mono signal? Is does not say it is on the back of the device or in the manual. Since I can't run right and left stereo into the board, I need to know for sure that the left out is a full mono signal not one half of effects, amp, etc. being split. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 As I recall, using either 1/4 out alone on a 500 will sum to mono....However, the XLR outputs will remain stereo....You could also program patches to be mono several different ways.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensmith5 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks Guru. I want to use the Balanced XLR to the board. Is the left one mono? All the other pod devices look like the left XLR is mono as stated on the back of the device but not the HD 500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palico Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The left XLR on the POD HD500x is NOT mono. The left 1/4 output is. As Spaceatl also stated if all the effects in the patch are mono then technially there is only a mono output anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The left xlr would output the left channel of the patch if the patch is stereo. To make the patch mono, put something like a noise gate at the very end of the signal chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensmith5 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Cool thanks guys I appreciate it. I guess I'll go 1/4 mono out to a direct box then to the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianrock2020 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I've been doing quite a bit of reading on this since I'm doing something similar to Ken. I've read that even some effects not listed as stereo ( analog chorus for example ) treat left and right differently, so unless steps are taken, using one xlr out could be missing some of the signal. Also read about the noise gate with specific settings ( unity gain ) at the end of EACH PATCH, would sum to mono so one xlr out could be used. Also important to note that if using 1/4 out, set the line/guitar switch to LINE if doing direct to PA. The other "big tip" I read was set input 1 to guitar and input 2 to variax for best sound if not actually using a variax -- not both inputs to guitar or same. ( and make that a global setting ). These articles on using one xlr out also touch on the mixer in the effects chain, and cause me to glaze over. Unless I hear a lot of noise using 1/4 out I think I'll stick to that into direct box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfsmith0 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Yes, the left XLR is not mono but I've been doing this at church for years (sending only the left XLR to the sound board) and have not noticed anything unusual. But I do not use obvious stereo effects (ping-pong delay, for example). I think you'll be just fine for more "normal/typical" types of signal chains. You can certainly try it to see if it satisfies. It's worked fine for me. My typical signal chain is compression -> wah -> overdrive -> amp -> mixer (everything centered - the signal is mono at this point) -> delay -> reverb. So the only stereo effects you'd be losing is due to delays and and reverbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelForbin Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Stick with the XLR out, and program your patches accordingly. For that matter, since the PA is mono, you could set up a dual signal path in the HD500x, and run "dual mono", IE two different signals from the HD500x intended to be both panned center, instead of in stereo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Stick with the XLR out, and program your patches accordingly. For that matter, since the PA is mono, you could set up a dual signal path in the HD500x, and run "dual mono", IE two different signals from the HD500x intended to be both panned center, instead of in stereo. The mixer balance controls (They are NOT always pan controls) in center "can" give you stereo output....Whether or not it is stereo depends on what is in the chain and where...The dual paths between the amp(s) and mixer blocks are actually dual stereo paths.... You can run dual stereo FX with pans centers....As duncann indicated, if you stick a mono FX model like the noise gate, the chain will be mono after that point....If you stick a NG on the A chain right in front the mixer, then the A balance control becomes a pan....If you have some stereo effect like the ping-pong before the mixer block on chain B, then the B balance control remains a balance control... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianrock2020 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'll try the single xlr out and add a noise gate at the end since I only use 4 or 5 patches. List of stereo/mono effects: Delay Tube Echo True Stereo Delay Tube Echo DryThru True Stereo Delay Tape Echo True Stereo Delay Tape Echo DryThru True Stereo Delay Multi-Head Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Delay Analog Echo True Stereo Delay Analog w/Mod True Stereo Delay Sweep Echo True Stereo Delay Sweep Echo DryThru True Stereo Delay Lo Res Delay True Stereo Delay Digital Delay True Stereo Delay Digital Delay w/ Mod True Stereo Delay Stereo Delay Left True Stereo Delay Ping Pong Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Delay Reverse Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Delay Dynamic Delay True Stereo Delay Auto Volume Echo True Stereo Delay Echo Platter True Stereo Delay Echo Platter DryThru True Stereo Modulation Opto Tremolo Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Modulation Bias Tremolo Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Pattern Tremolo True Stereo Modulation Phaser Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Dual Phaser Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Panned Phaser Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Barberpole Phaser True Stereo Modulation Script Phase True Stereo Modulation U-Vibe Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Modulation Analog Flanger Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Jet Flanger Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation AC Flanger Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation 80A Flanger Mono Modulation Analog Chorus Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Tri Chorus Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Pitch Vibrato Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Modulation Panner Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Rotary Drum Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Rotary Drm/Hrn Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Dimension Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Ring Modulator Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Modulation Frequency Shifter True Stereo Distortion Tube Drive Mono Distortion Screamer Mono Distortion Overdrive Mono Distortion Classic Dist Mono Distortion Heavy Dist Mono Distortion Colordrive Mono Distortion Buzz Saw Mono Distortion Facial Fuzz Mono Distortion Jumbo Fuzz Mono Distortion Fuzz Pi Mono Distortion Jet Fuzz Mono Distortion Line 6 Drive Mono Distortion Line 6 Distortion Mono Distortion Sub Octave Fuzz Mono Distortion Bass Octaver Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Distortion Octave Fuzz Mono Distortion Boost Comp Mono Distortion Volume Pedal True Stereo Distortion Red Comp Mono Distortion Blue Comp Mono Distortion Blue Comp Treb Mono Distortion Vetta Comp Mono Distortion Vetta Juice Mono Distortion Tube Comp Mono Distortion Noise Gate Mono Distortion Graphic EQ True Stereo Distortion Studio EQ True Stereo Distortion Parametric EQ True Stereo Distortion 4 Band Shift EQ True Stereo Distortion Mid Focus EQ True Stereo Filter Tron Down True Stereo Filter Tron Up True Stereo Filter Seeker True Stereo Filter Obi-Wah True Stereo Filter Voice Box Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Filter V Tron Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Filter Throbber True Stereo Filter Spin Cycle True Stereo Filter Comet Trails True Stereo Filter Slow Filter True Stereo Filter Octisynth Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Filter Synth O Matic Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Filter Attack Synth Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Filter Synth String Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Filter Growler Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Filter Q Filter True Stereo Filter Vetta Wah True Stereo Filter Fassel True Stereo Filter Weeper True Stereo Filter Chrome True Stereo Filter Chrome Custom True Stereo Filter Throaty True Stereo Filter Conductor True Stereo Filter Colorful True Stereo Filter Smart Harmony Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Filter Pitch Glide Stereo Thru/Mono Effect Reverb ‘63 Spring Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Spring Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Plate Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Room Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Chamber Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Hall Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Ducking Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Octo Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Cave Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Tile Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Echo Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Reverb Particle Stereo Thru/Stereo Effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianrock2020 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 well that didn't work. The document is here4: http://line6.com/support/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=774 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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