Stagesource Stink ?smell
Posted 07 July 2013 - 02:47 PM
Two things and the first is strange, I just bought the stage scape system - haven't even had a chance to power on anything. I unboxed it and sat the speakers in my living room in the corner (L2t & L2m) and after about an hour my family want to throw them out the house. There is a strong smell emanating from them - to me it's like a rubber smell but they say it's making them feel sick. Has anyone else had this and if so does it go away. I don't want to carry speakers to gigs that are turning folks stomach. And I intend to keep them in my garden studio - much more confined than my living room.
Second quick thing when I opened the M20d I found a 2gb SD card lying on the bottom of the box with an update file in it dated from 2012 is this normal.
Appreciate any feedback before I need to supply the whole family with Gas Masks!
Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:00 PM
...There is a strong smell emanating from them - to me it's like a rubber smell but they say it's making them feel sick...
Toneman's scepticism notwithstanding, Pete...
..Sadly, it's all "normal", at least it's as "normal" as showbiz ever was.
First off, the bad news.
You should definitely get those speakers onto a balcony or into your garage as soon as you can, because your noses aren't "lying". The volatile stuff that leaches out of various phenolic and plastic packing materials and components isn't deadly, but it is indeed nasty.
The better news.
I've frequently had (and continue to have) exactly that problem with a variety of new electronic gear. For instance, (being but the latest of countless such instances) as I write this, my brand new DMX-controlled LED SlimPAR 64RGBA lights are having just such an "airing" on my balcony, for exactly this reason.
It's invariably been my experience that all such odours do eventually dissipate, usually after a day or so of having the gear not "sealed" in its packing. In fact it's often that very packing that has caused the problem by "impregnating" the odours into the contents it was intended to protect.
...Second quick thing, when I opened the M20d I found a 2gb SD card lying on the bottom of the box with an update file in it dated from 2012. Is this normal?...
I'm only guessing, but it seems to me that Line 6 have possibly included that card as maybe their current "batch" of M20ds still ship with the original firmware ...and the included card is to bring yours up to date,
If it were my M20d, I wouldn't load that card until someone from Line 6 confirms this, just in (the highly unlikely) case it's one of their competitor's attempts at sabotage via "malware".
Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:29 PM
update.bfsw. The one I downloaded from L6 was an update.ssf. The were roughly the same size mine was slightly larger.
Looking forward to using the system bit of an in at the deep end start I'm off on holiday and the day we come back the first day the group will see it is a weekend gig so I hope the video tutorials are accurate
Thanks again for your input much appreciated.
Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:37 AM
Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:36 PM
...That's what everyone says about my speakers too. They smell like weed...
Another marketing "first" for Line 6:
"...Experience the top-end temptation of natural highs, brought to you by our exclusive AromaBlast Audio™..."
Aaah, ...seriously, though, folks, ...I've had some really foul chemical (and other) smells radiate from equipment over the years. Be they from packing or paint, those odours have either arrived at the moment of unpacking, or (especially, but not exclusively, with lighting gear) started on first "warm up".
My patented and exclusive "...SunnyStinkStopper System™..." (placing the items in the sun for several hours) has not failed me yet.
I'm told that this has a lot to do with the way UV radiation is highly effective at the breaking down of most such aromatic compounds and that the eating of large helpings of chilli, (accompanied by tequila, ...obviously) is a foolproof stopgap solution in the unlikely event that an odour persists.
Some say that this chilli-based tequila technique not only has the potential to solve every problem faced by mankind, but also is guaranteed to transform every performer into a virtuoso.
Or, at least it seems to.
Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:29 AM
About the weed smell..... are you sure it's not just absorption over time from the atmosphere in the room?
Haha, only if it was the dudes doing the manufacturing and QA testing as they smelled of weeeed as soon as I took them out of the box.
Also as a rule, I tend not to toke around my equipment for safety reasons.
Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:26 PM
I bought an l2t to go with my now obsolete hd500 (see new hd500x posts) and jtv59. I've had it 2 weeks and also still have the weed smell. Also bought from long & mcquade (Vancouver). After a couple days in my studio my wife asked me if I had been smoking weed:).
At least I know we're not crazy.
Has anyone got an official explanation from line6? I don't want to be sniffing that in the small studio space I use.
Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:11 AM
As I've said before, Mr B...
Those aromatic "extras" are by no means exclusive to StageSource speakers, however now it seems that Line 6 may be able to enter markets that they've not yet begun to explore...
...not just AromaBlast Audio™, but the "his" and "hers" range of LIne 6 fragrances for the discerning performer.
Posted 25 July 2013 - 08:23 AM
My main concerns are:
Will it go away and how long will it take?
Line 6 have acknowledged it is a problem with glue apparently, so is it safe to sit in a 10x10 studio breathing it in? It is certainly unpleasant and I don't know if I could actually work in it.
And if Line 6 fix it will I as an early pioneer of this very new PA concept be left with the speakers that smell?
Jon if you read this I tried to email you again to ask these questions and a couple of others but the email was undeliverable and returned to me so I'd be grateful if you could mail me again or give me a contact to speak to.
The problem is they are so good. If they had been mediocre I would have had them back to Guitar Guitar already. But we were blown away with our sound and I loved mixing it with the iPad at the back. Actually hearing myself perform live for the first time in my life. But this smell is really letting it down. And although at first it seems funny, its getting more serious by the day.
Posted 25 July 2013 - 02:46 PM
I believe the current clouds you're experiencing may clear up early next week, PP...
...And that it would be a matter of the utmost urgency that you bathe your stinky speakers in that sunlight as soon as you can, because...
...The volatile stuff that leaches out of various phenolic and plastic packing materials and components isn't deadly, but it is indeed nasty...
Other than requiring the precaution of making sure that they (or any other electronic gear) never get warmer than you'd think safe for bathing an infant, that combination of warmth and UV radiation really is the best way to break down those aromatic pollutants.
No one can define a "safe limit" for the inhalation of such vapours, so I remain of the firm opinion that being "enveloped" with them concentrated by either car or studio should be avoided at all costs.
I am also of the firm opinion that the possible legal consequences that may arise from plaints in respect of subsequent damage to health are so grave that Line 6 should DEFINITELY supply replacement units at no cost to the purchaser/s in the (admittedly unlikely) event that the abovementioned pollutant/s fail to dissipate subsequent to the remedial action I have outlined earlier in this discussion.
All parties should be absolutely clear that this is NOT a joking matter.
Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:10 PM
My "Met Mob" tells me that you may get a few above 18ºC days with sunny breaks next week, but, failing that, it would be really great if you could find a warm barn, garage or (even better) greenhouse where your speakers could be left both warm and fully uncovered for a day or two.
Posted 27 July 2013 - 03:48 AM
I too am in Scotland and I've had my Dream Stage rig since January and while the smell certainly doesn't knock me down, I can still smell it even 6 or so months from new.
One of my students actually asked where the smell of weed was coming from. Haha!!!
My studio is in on the top floor of my house and it 's been reaching 30.C up there in this hot weather and if anything. I've found the smell is more potent when it's warmer.....
But hey, I'm a stoner so it doesn't really bother me.....
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