using pedal as wet/dry mix on hd500x?

[kinglerch]

Wondering if there is some way to configure the integrated pedal (or external pedal for that matter) as a wet/dry control, in case the effects as a whole need to be dialed up or down during play. Ideally, this wet/dry control could be assigned to EXP1 and the volume as EXP2. I was reading a lot buy couldn't find out how to do this. Help please?

[duncann]

If you can be a little more specific about what you're trying to do, that would help.

 

Broadly, you can assign basically any parameter from any effect to either EXP1 or EXP2. So if you have a reverb at the end of the fx chain and want to control the wet/dry for that effect, you could assign the mix parameter to EXP1 or EXP2.

[kinglerch]

I want to use the pedal to dial down all the effects at once, so at the minimum setting it would be 100% clean (dry), and at the maximum setting all of the effects (wet) would be heard.

[BlueViolince]

I have almost all of my patches configured this way.  It is easy, but a lot of work.  You can set up to 50 parameters to exp1 or 2, so for example, I have delay and reverb mix assigned to exp1.  Also various EQ settings, compression settings, phaser rate, etc. 

[kinglerch]

Can this be done for the entire effects chain at once? It would seem like a nice feature.

 

And if not, can you explain how you do set up to 50 parameters for exp1/exp2? It was probably there in the software but I missed it.

[pianoguyy]

You can do wet/dry for fx. 

But I am not sure that you can do it between all fx/no fx. The unit doesn't have a 'bypass' or a master wet/dry feature. 

You could totally tweak around and see how dry you can make it, especially since I don't know what kind of fx you are using. But since I don't ever use a 'new tone' sound, I would have no reason to even want to try it. 

[duncann]

I want to use the pedal to dial down all the effects at once, so at the minimum setting it would be 100% clean (dry), and at the maximum setting all of the effects (wet) would be heard.

 

As long as each effect has a mix parameter, you could assign each of these to either EXP1 or EXP2. Or you could assign each effect to the same footswitch. So if you have FS1 for this purpose, it would toggle all effects on/off at once.

 

The easiest way would be to use the HD Edit software. The controllers tab allows you to assign things here, from footswitches, effect parameters, and min and max values if using the expression pedal.

[billlorentzen]

I don't know a way to dial all fx down as a sort of master fx return channel setting, but it's not hard to assign the mix parameters on many fx to a pedal.

 

However you can't do this with some floor type fx like distortions and compressors. Compressors can be dialed down in threshold settings. Distortions can be reduced, but they will still color the sound if they're in the chain and active - this is something I would love to see L6 change, with an actual mix control or a bypass when the setting goes to, say, minus zero. This can be done on the Axe FX.

 

I have discovered a very workable solution for this problem with distortion pedals. I insert a pan pedal early in the chain, followed by two paths, one with the dist pedal and one without. I move the amp to after the mixer, panned center, so it will receive equal amounts of whichever channel has signal fed to it by the panning.

 

This gives me the ability to go from a clean (or cleanish) lower vol rhythm sound to a louder, more distorted sound simply by depressing the pedal, and it also gives me varying amounts of distortion and volume in the in-between positions. This is a huge advantage for me. I hate looking down at the board every time I want to solo or throw in a line or louder part while comping (my foot easily finds the control pedal without looking). As a singer, I hate all that pedal dancing while I'm trying to entertain. Even when I'm not singing and just playing with an ensemble, the ability to easily control my volume and sound with just the pedal is a facility I love.

 

I should prolly do a vid on this to show how powerful this setup is, and how easy it is to implement.

[BlueViolince]

You can use a pan pedal in front of the dual path, I think.  I haven't tried it myself, but the theory is that you put your "wet fx" in one path, and leave the other path clean.  Use the panner to fade from one path to the other.  

[BlueViolince]

You may have to make sure that one chain is panned hard left, and the other hard right.  Again, this is theoretical coming from me.

[j_hotch]

Here is a similar answer from rig-talk:  Set the chain up for 2 amps in the split style, use the expression as a pan pedal in front of the split. Then when you sweep back and forth, you are literally panning the input signal back and forth between the amps. You can also set up separate effects this way (a chorus on the clean, and a delay on the dirty)

[kinglerch]

I have discovered a very workable solution for this problem with distortion pedals. I insert a pan pedal early in the chain, followed by two paths, one with the dist pedal and one without. I move the amp to after the mixer, panned center, so it will receive equal amounts of whichever channel has signal fed to it by the panning.

 

This is working extremely well and is very straightforward. The only issue I am having is that it seems Volume and Pan are locked to EXP2? Is there any way to assign one to EXP1 and the other to EXP2? Otherwise, you have to choose between either volume or pan. Not a tragic issue, but an odd one at least.

[billlorentzen]

This is working extremely well and is very straightforward. The only issue I am having is that it seems Volume and Pan are locked to EXP2? Is there any way to assign one to EXP1 and the other to EXP2? Otherwise, you have to choose between either volume or pan. Not a tragic issue, but an odd one at least.

My HD is still in the car from my gig last night, so I can't test this, but as I recall, the pan and vol pedal are assignable in the menu accessed by double tapping the up arrow. I use an analog vol pedal before the HD, myself.

[ColonelForbin]

You can do what want, but you will need to spend some time programming it. Not all of the FX will need the same range.

 

Basically, get your wet set, and note the top end of how you set them, IE, reverb at 35% mix, delay at 27% mix, etc. When you program those values to the EXP pedal, set the minimum to 0, and the max needs to be set individually to each FX. Not all FX have standard 'mix' parameters, so you will need to get creative.

 

The suggestion made previously about using the EXP to slide between two different signal chains is probably wayyyy easier!

[kinglerch]

My HD is still in the car from my gig last night, so I can't test this, but as I recall, the pan and vol pedal are assignable in the menu accessed by double tapping the up arrow. I use an analog vol pedal before the HD, myself.

 

I use a volume pedal further downstream, so it is not a big deal in my setup. I just thought it odd that with so many choices in the software, that it didn't seem to let me choose which pedal.