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QUESTION: How can I use the POD HD 500 to mic my cab?


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Hello wise and experienced POD HD500 users!  :D

 

To cut things short:

 

I want to use the amp sim and route the signal into my Laney TI15-112 Combo power amp so I can use the good HH speaker of the combo instead of the pod's cab sim which I don't like. The twist is, then I want to record the sound from the HH speaker using a microphone which will be connected to POD HD 500 MIC IN. I want to use the POD HD 500 as pre amp sim and use it as microphone interface linked to my laptop at the same time. Please teach me sensei ^_^ .

 

 

My current setup:

 

Guitar --> Bogner Uberschall sim (cab sim off) --> Vintage EQ (as low and high pass filters) -->(from L/MONO out) MXR 10 band EQ--> Laney TI15-112 Power amp --> HH speaker <-- I want to mic this speaker using a microphone connected to POD HD 500 while I'm performing. The POD HD500 is connected to my laptop via USB cable.

 

 

Kindly please guide / advice / teach me sensei, about how to set it up and make it work ^_^

 

Thank you!

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

Your humble fellow Pod User.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Try using this preset:

 

http://line6.com/customtone/tone/215659/

 

The important thing here is to keep the two channels entirely separate. You can change the amp/FX selections and move them around as long as you don't change the structure of the preset. Make sure the HD500 mixer pans the two channels fully L/R to keep them separate. In your DAW, select only the microphone channel (L or R) as the record input source for the track. Note that you will hear both channels through headphones connectd to the HD500 but only the mic channel will be recorded.

 

I've never done this myself so I'm not 100% sure this will do what you want. The only potential issue I can see is feedback, but I don't think that will happen. As a precaution, I would begin with the mic input level very low and increase it slowly.

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Thank you very much for your help Mr. Silverhead! :) Based on your preset, I figure out the best way to mic my cab. Here it is:

 

 

     guitar---->4band EQ--->boost comp--->hard gate--->Bogner Uber sim (no cab)--->Vintage EQ--->FX loop---->|mixer mute

                                                                                                                                                                                

          Mic--->Noise gate--->VIntage EQ---------------->|mixer centre not mute----------->USB-->Laptop

 

 

 

FX loop details: FX send----------cable----------->MXR10BandEQ input-----MXR10BandEQ output--cable-->Laney power amp--->HH speaker

 

 

 

I really need to becareful to not make the signal from the mic clip tho. I am surprise about how good the result. It's beyond my expectation. Now I can hear the real cab pushing air and hear the how the room effects the sound.

 

I will try to post the soundclip result here. Pardon the simple riff I made up about 1min before the test recording ^_^

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Here are the quick results. Tested with fairly low gain setting from the Bogner Uber sim.

 

Double tracked:

 

https://soundcloud.com/ahmad-nafis-hisyam/real-micked-cab251

 

 

Quad tracked:

 

https://soundcloud.com/ahmad-nafis-hisyam/real-micked-254

 

 

Don't be so harsh to armature hobbist like me ya ^_^  I still got a lot to learn :D

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Hi Rewolf48, thanks for replying :)

 

Then you might like to try the many variations of Cab, Mic + settings such as ER, Resonance, Thump, etc to see if you cannot actually get really close just using the HD Cab models  ;)

 

Actually, I already gave up on POD's cab sims. To me they are mostly sound harsh or too muffled and lack the "pushing air" live feel. I don't know man, they just don't sound natural to me. I spent 2 years trying to live with em. I read and tried what's mentioned in this blog too , http://foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/eq.

 

It's really different listening to the , lets say The Gazette - Suicide Circus guitar tone and trying to get the feel with POD cab sim. The sound of the cab pushing / sounds of the cab is alive is missing :(

 

Right now I'm trying out JTM 45 sim with the Laney cab. Sounds really earthy with nice warm break up texture in my room. I slam the JTM 45 with the Boost comp. Later I will record it when I really free and no one is around in my house. I really want to crank the volume up and get the speaker excursion and the cab really vibrating.

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Not wishing to go through all this again, especially if you have already read about it, but post memabobbo's efforts there have been a lot of discussion and discovery about the effect of Resonance, Thump etc, and education about how to use EQ so that with a good FRFR unit at volume it is possible to sound very good, but it will not quite be the amp in the room feel; if that is what you need then whatever works for you is good.

 

There are no rules!

 

Good FRFR?

 

 

Well explained EQ lesson

 

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