gareee Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Hi, I have a new computer running windows 10. All drivers seem up to date within Monkey, and Monkey finds the hd500. I downloaded HD Edit from the website (manually) as it was not found in the monkey program. HD Edit does not find my device. Anybody have success with windows 10 and HD Edit? Anyone have any ideas? I've uninstalled and reinstalled everything just in case. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I have had no problems with HDEdit and an HD500 after upgrading from 8.1, but I might be missing the ASIO driver - or at least the ASIO driver isn't appearing as an option in Audacity, but I haven't checked it specifically as I could use the HD500 as the windows speakers which was good enough at the time. I know it doesn't help you, but I can confirm that it is possible to used HD Edit on Windows 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I just checked and don't have a problem with HD Edit in win10 either. The license manager, monkey, and drivers work as well (in Reaper). It's really odd that Monkey sees the hd500 but not HD Edit. The only suggestion I can think of is trying the hd500 in a different USB port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Had two glitches last night, so there might be some intermittent issues: a. Edit failed to load all of the presets from the HD500 - I manually downloaded them to get around this b. The upload appears to have failed... The last points is based on the sound as I closed HD Edit that was ringing in my headphones changing dramatically and the sound from the Patch on the HD not matching what I had just built. It was quite a complicated attempt at a Synth Pad sound in parallel with a Dr Z Amp where the Pad is massive, but as I was shutting down the Synth Pad vanished and I couldn't get it back again in the HD500 alone, but I hadn't tried very hard 'cause it was time for my cocoa. Will try again tonight. Patches like that one where complex Synth sounds and a decent Guitar sound are running at the same time are pushing me toward Helix as the HD500 just doesn't have enough Blocks to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Had two glitches last night, so there might be some intermittent issues: a. Edit failed to load all of the presets from the HD500 - I manually downloaded them to get around this b. The upload appears to have failed... The last points is based on the sound as I closed HD Edit that was ringing in my headphones changing dramatically and the sound from the Patch on the HD not matching what I had just built. It was quite a complicated attempt at a Synth Pad sound in parallel with a Dr Z Amp where the Pad is massive, but as I was shutting down the Synth Pad vanished and I couldn't get it back again in the HD500 alone, but I hadn't tried very hard 'cause it was time for my cocoa. Will try again tonight. Patches like that one where complex Synth sounds and a decent Guitar sound are running at the same time are pushing me toward Helix as the HD500 just doesn't have enough Blocks to play with. This whole Windows 10 seems like a mildly unfinished disaster. For people having problems, I would suggest waiting a while and in the meantime go back to what you were using before if possible, especially if it's critical to your guitar work/hobby/whatever. Initially at least, I suspect the HD will outperform Helix in the synth/filter department. I hope I'm wrong. I see a lot of people wanting more more more amps gotta have more amps, for Helix, but not nearly as many complaints about the obvious gap in effects between HD and Helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talwilkins Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I all fairness, the problem of not working drivers, software and such on Windows 10 can hardly be Microsoft's fault. The third party developers, Line 6 in this cas, are responsible to the working of their software and they have had access to Windows 10 for a long time. I don't beleive Windows 10 has changed much in the way it works on driver level in the last months. It probably hasn't change much from Windows 8. I have been working on Windows 10 for a while now and up to now all software for Windows 8 has worked fine, including drivers for all kinds of differerent hardware. In defence of Line 6, it can be quite a difficult task to devellop new, bug-free drivers for any system. If there is a real problem, they will fix it. When has any new software been bug-free from the start? It's always smart to test first before making the big step on mission critical computers. And that's the same for MS, Apple, Unix, Linux and any other system that ever existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Certainly Line 6 is a bit slow in getting properly tested and working drivers for Win 10. They should have something by now, other than just suddenly listing Windows 10 on the driver download page for v4.2.7.1, which are from July 2013. More broadly, outside of driver compatibility, my whole experience with Windows 10 has been rather negative. Small things like UI inconsistency and two control panels leave an unpolished and unfinished impression; have you ever tried resizing a window from the corner? The cursor actually changes shape under an invisible border, lol. But the biggest thing is the default force-feeding of information I care absolutely nothing about. I know you can turn a lot of this stuff off, but it's not always easy to find the "off" button. Some cases you have to resort to registry changes. Not everything can be turned off, and not everything can be turned off completely. Not to mention their new update model that even installs third-party drivers auto-magically (again no good way to turn this stuff off). Ugh! I'm sure there's lots of people who don't mind or don't care about all that, which is fine. At this point, Windows 10 doesn't really offer anything for me over Windows 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spawn2031 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I all fairness, the problem of not working drivers, software and such on Windows 10 can hardly be Microsoft's fault. The third party developers, Line 6 in this cas, are responsible to the working of their software and they have had access to Windows 10 for a long time. I don't beleive Windows 10 has changed much in the way it works on driver level in the last months. It probably hasn't change much from Windows 8. I have been working on Windows 10 for a while now and up to now all software for Windows 8 has worked fine, including drivers for all kinds of differerent hardware. In defence of Line 6, it can be quite a difficult task to devellop new, bug-free drivers for any system. If there is a real problem, they will fix it. When has any new software been bug-free from the start? It's always smart to test first before making the big step on mission critical computers. And that's the same for MS, Apple, Unix, Linux and any other system that ever existed. Even though you are correct, ultimately it is the responsibility of the 3rd party to provide solid and properly functioning drivers for a new OS, lets be honest... if you know anything about Microsoft history, they have a very bad track record for pushing out an OS before it is really ready. Back when I used to work on PCs for a living, it always used to be a rule of thumb to stay away from a new Microsoft OS until the first service pack came out unless you were a tech and knew how to solve problems. I just recently took a Toshiba Satellite and upgraded it to 10 and had all kinds of driver issues. Many of them USB and network related. Right after the install my USB stuff, including my pod worked perfect. A few reboots later, no USB device worked at all. As I am typing this, I am vaguely remembering this being an issue with windows 8 also when it first came out... hmmm. Anyway, windows 10 also had horrible drivers for my on-board Realtech sound card, it made any audio coming out of literally sound like it was coming out of a tin can. Even though I probably could hunt down solutions for these issues, that many issues popping up on the first day on a PC that I know works great on windows 7 led me to opt to return to windows 7. I don't think 10 is ready, at least not for the music world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The Windows OS 10 Update Policy gave me pause on updating...Basically, the default forces the machine to take Windows 10 Updates...You can change the setting so you don't get them as quickly, but still no way to turn it off short of unplugging the internet. MS is running multiple updates per week now and there have a percentage of folks that have gotten into a reboot loop because of how they are bundling hardware updates with software updates and no option to separate them like in the previous versions of Windows Update...and no option to skip the hardware drivers...even if they are wrong and put you into a continuous rollback loop... Overall, it has been a fairly smooth rollout as Windows goes historically...but there is no way I am updating my machine that uses Line 6 stuff yet...The Windows 10 release is not to a point of being somewhat stable from the Windows Update standpoint. Besides, the guys that made my Line 6 PC (Sony) said wait until November 2015... Until, MS gets this stupid Windows Update policy straightened out, I am going to wait...Like all version of Windows before it, it will not be stable until about a year from now when SP1 comes out....Although, I don't think they are calling it that anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The Windows OS 10 Update Policy gave me pause on updating...Basically, the default forces the machine to take Windows 10 Updates...You can change the setting so you don't get them as quickly, but still no way to turn it off short of unplugging the internet. MS is running multiple updates per week now and there have a percentage of folks that have gotten into a reboot loop because of how they are bundling hardware updates with software updates and no option to separate them like in the previous versions of Windows Update...and no option to skip the hardware drivers...even if they are wrong and put you into a continuous rollback loop... Overall, it has been a fairly smooth rollout as Windows goes historically...but there is no way I am updating my machine that uses Line 6 stuff yet...The Windows 10 release is not to a point of being somewhat stable from the Windows Update standpoint. Besides, the guys that made my Line 6 PC (Sony) said wait until November 2015... Until, MS gets this stupid Windows Update policy straightened out, I am going to wait...Like all version of Windows before it, it will not be stable until about a year from now when SP1 comes out....Although, I don't think they are calling it that anymore... Good idea not updating. It's simply not ready yet. MS did release a tool to allow selective hiding of updates because of the reboot loops, but it's an answer to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. In addition to the updates, another thing that's really bad is Cortana, which thankfully can be turned off, I think, hope. A system where it collects a lot of stuff (email content, web usage, things of that nature) about how you use your computer so it can personalize your experience. This data is sent to Microsoft. What could go wrong with that? I haven't run into any stability issues, just compatibility, and mostly with drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talwilkins Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Good idea not updating. It's simply not ready yet. MS did release a tool to allow selective hiding of updates because of the reboot loops, but it's an answer to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. In addition to the updates, another thing that's really bad is Cortana, which thankfully can be turned off, I think, hope. A system where it collects a lot of stuff (email content, web usage, things of that nature) about how you use your computer so it can personalize your experience. This data is sent to Microsoft. What could go wrong with that? I haven't run into any stability issues, just compatibility, and mostly with drivers. Good point about the data collection. I hop you don't use anything from Google since they are much worse on that end. They actually sell the data, MS apparently doesn't. That is the way computing is going though, collecting data to make the experience better. We just have to trust they won't use the data for anything else. They're all doing it, some more than others, some more concealed than others. I really don't like it but what can I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Good point about the data collection. I hop you don't use anything from Google since they are much worse on that end. They actually sell the data, MS apparently doesn't. That is the way computing is going though, collecting data to make the experience better. We just have to trust they won't use the data for anything else. They're all doing it, some more than others, some more concealed than others. I really don't like it but what can I do? I think you're right, not much you can do about it. It is what it is, and what it's going to be, regardless. I look at it as a situation where you can only hold off for so long, so I hope Windows 7 is around for a while yet. How long before we start to have a collective consciousness, like the borg. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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