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#41 johnnyayyy

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 09:58 AM

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Sure you can get a 1990's LP for $1,300 or less on eBay, but try finding a 2012 LP Standard for much less than $1,900! 

 

Okay, I will try...

 

Well, that took about two seconds...

 

Sold recently on ebay starting at $1300:

 

http://www.ebay.com/...e, -epi&_sop=15

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2a2db96c58

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1e7d4052c0

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item4610656228

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item35ca75a4d7

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item338283df5c

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item3383f36474

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1c33f926dd

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2c6f1f7dd8

 

 

Ooooh, lots of them even include fancy cases!

 

Shall I go on...?

 

I also see them all the time on local Craigslist for $1200 to $1500, you just gotta look.

 

AND SINCE THE JIST OF YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT WAS "A GIBSON TECH GUITAR WILL NOT LOSE VALUE AS MUCH OR AS FAST AS A LINE 6  TECH GUITAR WILL" (paraphrasing): I have provided links that show the opposite, please link to examples of Firebird X guitars that sold for anywhere near what they cost originally.

 

There are no available sales figures for JTVs from the 90's, but... is a Les Paul from the 90's a different guitar than a Les Paul from last year? Does a Les Paul really lose more value as the years go by? Is a used 1980s Les Paul worth less than a used 1990s Les Paul? And a used 1990s Les Paul less than a 2000s Les Paul? And a used 2000s Les Paul worth less than a 2010s Les Paul? I don't think so... OTHER THAN VINTAGE GUITARS a used Les Paul's value is determined by model, specific details (top/finish etc.) and condition. A used 2012 Les Paul is worth no more or less on the resale market than a used 1990 Les Paul of the same specs.

 

And a Les Paul is NOT a LPX/Firebird X/JTV.

 

SURELY you can see the difference. No? Okay... see, a Les Paul is a timeless classic musical instrument that has been desirable for more than 50 years and proven to be of value by countless musicians on countless recordings and live performances, and a LPX/Firebird X/JTV is a cutting edge tech gadget aimed at a small market of open minded adventurous guitarists that will be obsolete in a few years when the next generation of tech gadgetry comes along.


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#42 Crusty_Old_Rocker

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 10:26 AM

Just imagine what the robot tuning does to the neck relief and action of the guitar as the overall string tension changes.

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#43 godindave

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:43 PM

Always enjoy this forum and learn something. JThis is my 1st posting in the years of listening to our members. Had to finally join the discussion with my view.  

I really wish people would be more open-minded and objective with comparisons.  Referring here to  my JTV-69 (Korean) and Gibson "X" guitars. 

 

1. Own '74 LP Custom since '74. Love it as "what an LP should be". Lots of wear on it from countless hrs playing in bands, ETC. ---  and still an excellent instrument.  

 

2. Bought original Vetta & FBV new around 10 yrs ago. Bought Variax 300 a bit after that. So then upgrades Vetta with digital interface to integrate with Variax. Make life more simple since hitting one switch on the FBV gave me changes on the guitar model, amp, cab, and effects ! That still works fine --- but only with my old Variax.

 

3. Bought JTV-69 Korean May '13 and just upgraded to version 2. Love the JTV with models PLUS mag Pups, alt. tuning, ETC. But have never been able to get it to be recognized by Vetta, or an HD500 I bought & returned.  Bought new VDI cable, tried Cat5 cable, and tried everything discussed on the forums, VERY disappointing. But I did not try again with the Vax 2.0 upgrade. Fingers crossed it will FINALLY work.

In the meantime, I added a Roland GK3 to the JTV plugged into a Roland GR-55.  (Benn using Roland synths since analog days. I appreciate innovation AND traditional guitars.)   VERY nice setup with the jTV Plus GR-55. But a little complicated since I need to change multiple "switches to get everything matched up.

 

4. Bought a Gibson Robot SG Special (silverburst with normal SG Standard bindings and, inlaid, carbon fibre pickguard and a great case).  Very high quality guitar. Zero problems or flaws. Great player re: action and sound. Got it new for only $800 at Sam Ash 2  yrs ago as clearance plus unusual (for them) 20% off sale.  Excellent USA made instrument & accessories!. Robot tuners work fine for standard & alternate tunings. But, yes, the JTV-69 is MUCH more convenient in selecting alternate tunings and I prefer not physically retuning; but, it does work.   The JTV is also much more versatile and has high quality modeled instruments (especially with 2.0) . 

 

5. Please compare USA made Variax with the G-LPX and I'd consider the prices about the SAME. Sweetwater really has the G-LPX, USA made, in stock (as of 8/18/13) for $ 2999. (with no sales tax and free shipping.) The LPX includes Bluetooth control using the included pedals.  That makes switching guitars and effects as simple as my old Vax 300 with FBV & Vetta.  Seriously considering selling some equipment & guitars to buy their LPX.  Will DEFINITELY still keep the JTV which I consider a different personality, and great sounding with the 2.0 version models. Only wish it worked with my Vetta.

 

BTW, has anyone had better luck connecting JTV to Vetta (or HD500 or 500X) using the new 2.0 software ???     OR, any ideas on what I should try next ?

Thanks for listening. 


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#44 johnnyayyy

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 07:11 AM

BTW, has anyone had better luck connecting JTV to Vetta (or HD500 or 500X) using the new 2.0 software ???     OR, any ideas on what I should try next ?

Thanks for listening. 

 

This problem was solved with step by step instructions in the old forums, but accessing those posts is difficult - clicking the links will show "an error has occurred" or something similar, but if you go back a page and click it multiple times occasionally you will be taken to the the page you are requesting.

 

Here are the links, not sure which one has the info on how to make it work:

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jtv+vetta


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