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Best Answer FlyingsCool , 14 March 2017 - 12:08 PM

See post #33 of this thread.  Not the original patches, which would be nice to have, but they are the patches he is using now so I'm imagining improved.(?)

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#1 JazzInc

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 08:26 AM

I am still really happy with my Helix after two months! After a LOT of playing and testing, this is my ultimate Fender Clean. Very balanced and clear.

 

Even one of my critical friends, a session player who didn't like my axe-fx 2, was very impressed with my setup.

 

I use a Fender Strat with Don Mare Super Sport pickups into the Helix, which is amplified by the best FRFR i've ever owned, the very flat and transparent Atomic CLR Wedge.

 

INSTRUCTIONS:

 

-Download the patch and the two custom IRs. (right-click and save as on the links)

-Upload the IRs to slots 33 and 35 (check the names).

-Upload the preset file.

-Play!!

-Let me know what you think!

PS: It's quite a bit louder than the factory presets, so adjust your volume accordingly

 

Tone:

https://www.dropbox.... Mayer.hlx?dl=0

 

IRs:

https://www.dropbox....oost33.wav?dl=0

https://www.dropbox....oost35.wav?dl=0

 

 

 

 

For fun, try these links:

 

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#2 ColonelForbin

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 08:49 AM

What I'd like to hear is some John Mayer tones based on his Dead & Company rig! His playing and performance level has been drastically elevated this year, these shows are better than the FTW stuff with Trey and Bruce. That's quite frankly some seriously groovy mojo he's got going with the new PRS!

 

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#3 ColonelForbin

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 08:52 AM

Incidentally, thanks!! My Helix literally just arrived today, Fed Ex delivered it to my office. I haven't even opened it yet :)

Once I get up and running will give your patch a run through, thanks for the detailed info on how to make it happen with the IR loading!


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#4 JazzInc

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 09:34 AM

Incidentally, thanks!! My Helix literally just arrived today, Fed Ex delivered it to my office. I haven't even opened it yet :)

Once I get up and running will give your patch a run through, thanks for the detailed info on how to make it happen with the IR loading!

You're welcome. I really want to hear what you think, compared to the factory presets


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#5 amsdenj

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 12:16 PM

JazzInc, thanks for the very nice and interesting patch. After giving it a listen, I noticed some interesting ideas in the patch that I thought might be useful to write down. I started just capturing these in my own notes (Evernote) but then decided to share at Analyzing JazzInc's SRV Little Wing Patch. I hope you don't mind. Feel free to correct anything I got wrong or missed. And again, thanks for your great contributions.


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#6 silverhead

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 12:23 PM

Thanks to both of you for this. I find it to be an excellent tone, and a very useful analysis that provides ideas for other tone creations.


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 12:25 PM

I am still really happy with my Helix after two months! After a LOT of playing and testing, this is my ultimate Fender Clean. Very balanced and clear.

 

Even one of my critical friends, a session player who didn't like my axe-fx 2, was very impressed with my setup.

 

I use a Fender Strat with Don Mare Super Sport pickups into the Helix, which is amplified by the best FRFR i've ever owned, the very flat and transparent Atomic CLR Wedge.

 

INSTRUCTIONS:

 

-Download the patch and the two custom IRs. (right-click and save as on the links)

-Upload the IRs to slots 33 and 35 (check the names).

-Upload the preset file.

-Play!!

-Let me know what you think!

PS: It's quite a bit louder than the factory presets, so adjust your volume accordingly

 

http://www.familieas...nMayerClean.hlx

http://www.familieas...omIRJoost33.wav

http://www.familieas...omIRJoost35.wav

 

Cool, I'm getting ready to give this a shot.  I'll post back with my results.

 

Incidentally, thanks!! My Helix literally just arrived today, Fed Ex delivered it to my office. I haven't even opened it yet :)

Once I get up and running will give your patch a run through, thanks for the detailed info on how to make it happen with the IR loading!

 

Awesome!!  I've been anxiously waiting for you to get your Helix.  Now I'll be standing by to see what crazy routing schemes you dream up, especially with DT amp integration.


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#8 JazzInc

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 12:43 PM

JazzInc, thanks for the very nice and interesting patch. After giving it a listen, I noticed some interesting ideas in the patch that I thought might be useful to write down. I started just capturing these in my own notes (Evernote) but then decided to share at Analyzing JazzInc's SRV Little Wing Patch. I hope you don't mind. Feel free to correct anything I got wrong or missed. And again, thanks for your great contributions.

Wow, Jim, you honour me greatly by taking the time for your analysis. After reading your blog, you just about nailed my thoughts. You almost nailed all the IR recipes as well. Here are some more thoughts behind the tone:

 

-There is also a mid boost, which simulates the mid-cap bypasses you see on such amps. Can be handy for cutting through a dense mix.

-The 35 impulse response adds some room sound and indeed is a little brighter on the darker amp

-The LA2As just add a little something even when they're not compressing, and they do take the edge off. Same goes for the tube preamp. Basically, I do what I would to in the studio: get some great speakers, great mics, a good preamp and a good compressor to capture the sound of the chain before it. I also really like the Emphasis control on the LA2A to tweak response. (same goes for the power amp characteristics on both amps to tweak feel and response.)

-The double amp setup gives a lot of options. For instance, the treble on the Twin is a bit too much for me, so I like to tone that down and bring in the thicker, sweeter treble on the DeLuxe. Vice Versa for the Presence. For different applications these two amps can also be used to their strengths together.

-I really feel you need very good IRs to get the best out of the Helix


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 01:22 PM

JazzInc, Nice patch. Amsdenj, nice blog post.  Was a good read while having a slow day at work.

 

Had the Helix from the initial Sweetwater shipment a couple months ago.  Loving the patches we have gotten just in the past week.  Getting some quality patches off the CustomTone site and Forum.  I am a worship player and found the Helix to mix in nicely with my acoustic work and electric.  I was an Axe user up to a couple months ago.  Not getting into a comparison, but do enjoy the editing on the Helix board itself.  Really want the editor, but Line 6 did setup the editing very well on the board.  I do feel what has helped Fractal is the forum and quality of help.  Hope this board continues to grow in the same way.  Good stuff.


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Mesa Mini Rectifier, Mesa Mark Five:25, a lot of pedals, Line 6 Helix

 


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 02:50 PM

The patch sounds great to me, especially with my '91 U.S. Fender Strat.  I can tell a lot of thought went into it.

 

And Amsdenj, that's a seriously thorough and well written analysis.


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 11:50 PM


By the way, for people wondering what the return one and two are for, this is something I really highly recommended. I bought a Bluetooth receiver and plugged it into the return 1 and 2, so now I can play backing tracks or use the amazing slowdowner to write out fast solos, or just learn new songs for the band

And if you want a little more hair on your clean tone, just reset the power amp settings to their default on both amps

The way it sounds now through my atomic clr, it's very close to my two rock clean channel
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Posted 31 December 2015 - 05:55 AM

Is that slowdowner an IOS app? Why do the IRs need to be placed in a specific location (33 & 35) and how can we back these up so when doing a setlist restore we don't have to manually re-enter them?


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:29 AM

Amazing Slowdowner from Roni Music is an iOS and Mac OS X app that's been around for a very long time. There's a Windows version too. It lets you slow down or speed up almost any kind of audio file without changing the pitch. You can also change the pitch up and down if the track isn't in tune with your guitar. You can set start and end points for looping making it easier to learn phrases.

IRs are stored wherever you put them. However, they are not exported in index order. As a result, after you do a Helix factory reset, and loose all the IRs, you have to import them all back in in the same order or your patches will have the wrong IR index. This is because the patch Impulse Responce block only stores the IR index, not a location independent link to the IR (like the IR name).

You can load the IRs above into any index position, then go edit the patch to change the IR block to the block number where you imported them. This will be correct for your system until you have to reload and possibly reorder all you IR blocks again.
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Posted 07 March 2016 - 04:59 PM

This tone is great!  Thank you JazzInc!  I am curious, is it possible to get this tone without using so many blocks?  I need to add more effects to this patch but don't have the DSP and routing space.  I absolutely love the John Mayer / Two Rock clean tone and have been using your tricks / settings to get close, but can't get as sweet of a tone as your exact patch.  Does it really take blending the 2 amps (twin & deluxe reverb) to get there?  Apparently so, but thought I would ask.  I will keep trying.  Thanks again for the great patch and insight.


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#15 JazzInc

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Posted 08 March 2016 - 01:40 AM

This tone is great!  Thank you JazzInc!  I am curious, is it possible to get this tone without using so many blocks?  I need to add more effects to this patch but don't have the DSP and routing space.  I absolutely love the John Mayer / Two Rock clean tone and have been using your tricks / settings to get close, but can't get as sweet of a tone as your exact patch.  Does it really take blending the 2 amps (twin & deluxe reverb) to get there?  Apparently so, but thought I would ask.  I will keep trying.  Thanks again for the great patch and insight.

Thanks man. I don't get the exact tone without this many blocks, but close. Try to experiment.


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#16 victorloher

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Posted 08 March 2016 - 03:13 PM

Thanks for the patch!  I just received my Helix today and can't wait to try this patch and it out.


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#17 DavidBurt

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 04:46 PM

Hi JazzInc.  I am having trouble downloading your preset and IR files onto my Mac.  Can you send them to me by email?

 

dsylburt@gmail.com

 

Thanks.


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#18 DavidBurt

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 04:51 PM

Update.

 

I've got the IR's but need the preset


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#19 DavidBurt

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 05:23 PM

I've found a way to get the preset now so no need to send.  Awesome patch!


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Posted 09 March 2016 - 06:41 PM

Amazing Slowdowner from Roni Music is an iOS and Mac OS X app that's been around for a very long time. There's a Windows version too. It lets you slow down or speed up almost any kind of audio file without changing the pitch. You can also change the pitch up and down if the track isn't in tune with your guitar. You can set start and end points for looping making it easier to learn phrases.

...

 

Along these lines, for those of you who learn tunes off of YouTube, you may or may not be aware there is a half and even a quarter speed setting available under the settings icon.


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Posted 23 March 2016 - 09:55 PM

Can you shoot me the patch or repair download link? Thank you for your time.

 

My email: mikelorah@mac.com


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#22 JazzInc

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 10:01 AM

Can you shoot me the patch or repair download link? Thank you for your time.

 

My email: mikelorah@mac.com

Download links still work fine. Just used them and sent the files I got to your email address


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#23 kaimart

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 10:56 AM

HI JazzInc,

 

when I'm downloading the  patch, there is only a "hlx.txt" extension, that I can't use for the helix. What am I doing wrong?


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:05 AM

...maybe you should rename it (so that you will only have .hlx)?!


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#25 JazzInc

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 12:45 PM

HI JazzInc,

when I'm downloading the patch, there is only a "hlx.txt" extension, that I can't use for the helix. What am I doing wrong?

Yes, there is this weird thing with some computers that they add the TXT extension. Just remove that extension and you're fine.
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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:32 PM

Yes, there is this weird thing with some computers that they add the TXT extension. Just remove that extension and you're fine.

 

Or the thing that it's not allowed to attach *.hlx files in this forum, so you need to be clever.

 

EDIT: in this case not...


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#27 shanecgriffo

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 04:08 AM

if i click the link for the preset file i just get a text page open up.. is that right.. i'm a pc guy and currently on a mac that i have no idea how to right click and save on this thing lol.. anyone help this mac newbie out?


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#28 JazzInc

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 10:08 AM

In your downloads, it should be there. Then just remove the TXT extension and keep the hlx extension
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Posted 25 July 2016 - 04:21 AM

Hi there, 

being a big fan of the two rock cleans I'd love to check your preset but the website of the link above seems to be unavailable at the moment. Is there a chance you could fix that, JazzInc?

Or could maybe somebody load the preset up again somewhere else?

Since I found your other thread with a two rock-like clean preset your Homepage seems to be quite interesting for further inspiriation though ;)

Thanks and best regards!


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#30 jamesklotz

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 07:01 PM

Sounds very interesting to me as well. The download says "temporary unavailable". I'll keep checking back, would love to try to patch! Thanks for posting.


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Posted 09 September 2016 - 09:28 AM

Hi there,

 

no way downloading the patch. Is there someone so kind to send it to me by email?

matteozucchi88@gmail.com

 

thanks


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Posted 09 September 2016 - 01:23 PM

If anyone has the hlx file, I'd love a copy too. It appears that the website is down. I can grab the wav files that are attached, but the hlx file isn't.

 

cjw5281 at yahoo dot com if anyone has it. Thanks.


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#33 JazzInc

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Posted 09 September 2016 - 09:58 PM

Could you guys try these links? Here are all my presets. Mostly from a few months ago:

https://www.dropbox....sYSmU4-WXa?dl=0

 

Here are all my (custom) IRs to try. Many subtle variations to dial in a tone:

https://www.dropbox....-ByPGdFDfa?dl=0

 

Try the SRV and Fender Twin tones for the Mayer cleans

 

Hi there, 

being a big fan of the two rock cleans I'd love to check your preset but the website of the link above seems to be unavailable at the moment. Is there a chance you could fix that, JazzInc?

Or could maybe somebody load the preset up again somewhere else?

Since I found your other thread with a two rock-like clean preset your Homepage seems to be quite interesting for further inspiriation though ;)

Thanks and best regards!

 

 

Sounds very interesting to me as well. The download says "temporary unavailable". I'll keep checking back, would love to try to patch! Thanks for posting.

 

 

Hi there,

 

no way downloading the patch. Is there someone so kind to send it to me by email?

matteozucchi88@gmail.com

 

thanks

 

 

If anyone has the hlx file, I'd love a copy too. It appears that the website is down. I can grab the wav files that are attached, but the hlx file isn't.

 

cjw5281 at yahoo dot com if anyone has it. Thanks.


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Posted 10 September 2016 - 10:13 AM

Thanks for this Joost.


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 03:30 AM

Yes, there is this weird thing with some computers that they add the TXT extension. Just remove that extension and you're fine.

Hi

I would love to try your patch but the download page seems to be gone now.

Sorry to dig up an old post, BTW


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Posted 04 February 2017 - 04:33 PM

I'm not able to download the .hlx patch. The other files worked. Can you help? My email is music.solebridge@gmail.com


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:51 AM

Hi,

 

Does anyone have these? Can you provide them, please?

 

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 07:16 AM

Could you guys try these links? Here are all my presets. Mostly from a few months ago:

https://www.dropbox....sYSmU4-WXa?dl=0

 

Here are all my (custom) IRs to try. Many subtle variations to dial in a tone:

https://www.dropbox....-ByPGdFDfa?dl=0

 

Try the SRV and Fender Twin tones for the Mayer cleans

Joost,

Are the IR Select indexes in the IR blocks in the patches linked to the IRs in the folder sorted in alphabetical order and indexed at 1? Want to make sure I'm using the correct IR for the patch.


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#39 JazzInc

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 09:31 AM

I'm sorry. It's been so long I don't remember. Let me make a screen shot of my slots later

Joost,
Are the IR Select indexes in the IR blocks in the patches linked to the IRs in the folder sorted in alphabetical order and indexed at 1? Want to make sure I'm using the correct IR for the patch.


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 10:04 AM

I can't download the HLX file, IR`s yes, I use with the litigator and sounds cool!!


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