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#1 Amperzand

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:03 PM

If you know are a left hander or you know a left hander, then why not vote for a left handed JTV?
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While it is may be possible to rewire a right handed JTV, add a new button for the guitar strap, etc - It would void the warranty, and would leave you with a guitar that isn't exactly ergonomic. Hendrix shined with his upside-down Strat, but alas we aren't all Hendrix!
To anyone who is left handed by nature, but has forced themselves to play the "right" way up - Well done. Vote anyway?

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 05:15 PM

You are aware that Hendrix played a right-handed Strat flipped over, aren't you?


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 12:08 PM

You are aware that Hendrix played a right-handed Strat flipped over, aren't you?

 

Either way, it would work with a regular guitar perhaps, but not a Variax. The saddles are all arranged specifically. Maybe if you rewired all the piezos in reverse order. 


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 12:51 PM

Either way, it would work with a regular guitar perhaps, but not a Variax. The saddles are all arranged specifically. Maybe if you rewired all the piezos in reverse order. 

 

Hendrix notably did not restring the guitar - the high-E was on the top.  I get where you're going with wanting left-handed Variax models but all I'm saying is that Hendrix is not a good example.  

 

But, if you want a traditional lefty Varaix I would think you could swap transducer assignments without too much trouble. 


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 02:02 PM

Hendrix notably did not restring the guitar - the high-E was on the top.  I get where you're going with wanting left-handed Variax models but all I'm saying is that Hendrix is not a good example.  

 

But, if you want a traditional lefty Varaix I would think you could swap transducer assignments without too much trouble. 

 

 

So all the pictures I've seen of Hendrix he's bending his low E and the A string? Quite unlikely  :D

 

He did restring his right-handed Strat. 

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 05:00 PM

So all the pictures I've seen of Hendrix he's bending his low E and the A string? Quite unlikely 

 

I'll concede the point.  I don't know where I got it in my head that he strung it right-handed! 

 

But, doesn't change the fact that you can swap transducer wiring (or the transducers themselves) if you wanted to flip over a JTV-69.


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 11:30 PM

But, doesn't change the fact that you can swap transducer wiring (or the transducers themselves) if you wanted to flip over a JTV-69.

Totally agree  :)


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 03:34 PM

But, doesn't change the fact that you can swap transducer wiring (or the transducers themselves) if you wanted to flip over a JTV-69.

And void the warranty. Great idea.

 

Look, if you don't think left handers deserve to be catered for, then don't comment in this thread. A lot of people seem to think we are purposely being difficult. What's the big deal? Every guitar company I know of has left handed models - even Line 6 used to. Line 6 have the "USA Custom Shop", but 3 years in, still haven't managed to create a single left handed JTV model.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 03:40 PM

come on now... 

he was just suggesting a path forward...

just because it wasn't a post in absolute agreement with you doesn't make it a bad post....

not to mention you could always save a ton of cash get a used one... that would have no warranty to void...

again not ideal... but an innocent path forward... so calm down a bit

 

And void the warranty. Great idea.

 

Look, if you don't think left handers deserve to be catered for, then don't comment in this thread. A lot of people seem to think we are purposely being difficult. What's the big deal? Every guitar company I know of has left handed models - even Line 6 used to. Line 6 have the "USA Custom Shop", but 3 years in, still haven't managed to create a single left handed JTV model.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 03:51 PM

OK, thank you right handers. We've had the obligatory "you could modify the guitar" comment now. Why did none of us think of that???  :rolleyes:

 

come on now... 

he was just suggesting a path forward...

just because it wasn't a post in absolute agreement with you doesn't make it a bad post....

not to mention you could always save a ton of cash get a used one... that would have no warranty to void...

again not ideal... but an innocent path forward... so calm down a bit


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 03:57 PM

These are the people I'd like to hear from:
 

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:00 PM

then start your own forum or support group....

unfortunately for you, any line6 registered user that wishes to participate can and will...

now stop being such a bully.

 

These are the people I'd like to hear from:
 

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:30 PM

Hey TheRealZap, I'm sorry that you think I'm being a bully. I admit I am hurt by right handers and even left-handers-who-play-right-handed, who feel it necessary to add their two cents worth of apathy, every time I mention this opportunity to vote for for a left handed JTV. It feels to me like right handers are bullying us with condescending and unsympathetic comments.

 

I like you, and appreciate your comments and the help you give people on these forums. Can you please explain why this thread is not welcome here, and advise which would be more appropriate - a new forum or a new support group?


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:20 PM

This thread is totally welcome and encouraged... and i understand you're frustrated... but the comments in which you belittle are only people trying to help...


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:33 PM

I don't want to stop right handers from commenting. I want everybody to vote for a left handed JTV. I think it is a matter of equality that anyone can get behind. If you know a left handed guitarist, or you are a left handed guitarist - then why not vote for it?

 

Distracting from this message with suggestions that we should modify an instrument designed for right handers, or that we should have forced ourselves to play right handed when we started, will get my down vote on this thread. It won't be viewed as helpful.

 

It's a bit like telling your gay brother that he should "just marry a woman dressed as a man", or "just learn to be sexually attracted to women", instead of voting for marriage equality in your state. It's not going to effect you negatively to vote for equality, and it's going to make a significant proportion of the population a lot happier.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 07:21 PM

I'm throwing my vote towards a lefty jtv, but not having to create another account from another site!


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 08:37 PM

great.... but you realize that only votes on the other site will count....

 

I'm throwing my vote towards a lefty jtv, but not having to create another account from another site!


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:28 PM

I don't want to stop right handers from commenting. I want everybody to vote for a left handed JTV. I think it is a matter of equality that anyone can get behind. If you know a left handed guitarist, or you are a left handed guitarist - then why not vote for it?

 

Not that I don't agree with you, but I'll be devil's advocate for a second. Lefties make up 10% of the community. Unfortunately, that means the other 90%, while they are serviced to some degree by the current JTVs, would prefer Line 6 spend their time on something other than a lefty guitar, which is no use to us. For me, I hate the current JTVs, apart from the passable JTV59. My vote would be for a PRS style JTV. So the question for Line 6 is then are more people going to buy a righty PRS JTV (or something else), or a lefty JTV. Of those, what % is taking away from other sales.

 

So equality is not as straight forward as lefty vs righty. You can turn a JTV upside down and not be happy, and I can buy a JTV69 (or something else), and be equally unhappy.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:39 AM

I was part of these discussions and that didn't go anywhere! My money has gone elsewhere for now.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:41 AM

Not sure what happened - I was just replying to one of the post's and all this jibber jabber appeared - sorry.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 08:22 AM

Sorry if you are in a minority but big companies make decisions based on the market.  It's really not that hard to modify a JTV for Left Handed play.  Line6 is not going to make a left handed JTV (IMO).


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 08:29 AM

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Sorry if you are in a minority but big companies make decisions based on the market.  It's really not that hard to modify a JTV for Left Handed play.  Line6 is not going to make a left handed JTV (IMO).


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:19 AM

I Vote for one.  Boooooooo for every company that doesn't make all guitars in a left handed model!  I'm looking to buy one now and can never get the guitars i want left handed!  I've had to put up with my arm hitting the tone or volume pot my whole life!  

 

Wait, I've got an idea.  How about companies only make left handed guitars and then all you right handed lot can modify them instead!

 

Please make more left handed models!  This is discrimination!


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:39 AM

Guys, or better experts, what means on ideascale in progress?And what complete? Cause I see the left handed in progress


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 01:39 PM

I don't see it as in progress, but i do recall a public reply from someone internal to L6 that said they nearly had one model ready to go for lefties... want to say a 59.... if i recall that led to complaints that some wanted a 69 lefty... etc...

you can't please everyone, i guess... i think this was a ways back on the old forums... don't think i'm imagining it... but i can't cite any specifics... so ... take it as a rumour.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 08:39 AM

Thanks Zap :)


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:02 AM

I Vote for one.  Boooooooo for every car company that doesn't makes cost-effective compact cars. all guitars in a left handed model!  I'm looking to buy one a car now and can never get the guitars i want left handed  an affordable car that I can fit into! I am over six feet tall and I've had to put up with my arm head hitting the tone or volume pot roof of every affordable car my whole life!  

 

Wait, I've got an idea.  How about car companies only make left handed guitars full size cars and then all you right handed lot under-6-footers can modify them instead pay the extra cost too!

 

Please make more left handed models stop making compact cars!  This is discrimination!

 

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:09 AM

The above was edited (bold text) to reflect the feelings of tall people...........

Hahahaha, I suppose I am rather short.

 

I just want a left handed compact variax!


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 06:50 AM

I'm with you all the way on this.  Let's have a left-hander please.  Lefties make up around 10% of guitar players, yet the guitar shops I visit probably have about 2% of their stock in l/h models.  I realise the old "from a business point of view" etc, but I just don't get it.  In these days of recession ANY profit is not to be sneezed at.  And guess what?  If I could get my hands on a lefty Variax, then I'd probably be looking at a DT25, coupled with an HD500X.  Ooh look, Line 6's profit just got even better.  Without a Variax I'd probably buy neither because if I couldn't unlock all of the features then I'd be looking at the competitions offerings instead which are plentiful.  Which is a shame 'cos we'd ALL like chance of the "Dream Rig"


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 11:29 AM

bilbo,

 

Actually, from a business point of view, not all profit is good or at least, good enough. There's an opportunity cost. You have limited resources. Let's say I have $X in resources to invest. And say, I can make $Y on a lefty, but it costs the $X to put the systems in place. If those same $X can make 2 * $Y on a different model, you're going to make the different model, despite the fact that you could have made money on the lefty. You can make more money on the other one in this example.

 

That being said, the lefty request was changed to "in review" on ideascale on Nov 7th, whatever that means.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:28 PM

It's a bit like telling your gay brother that he should "just marry a woman dressed as a man", or "just learn to be sexually attracted to women", instead of voting for marriage equality in your state. It's not going to effect you negatively to vote for equality, and it's going to make a significant proportion of the population a lot happier.

 

Have to disagree with that comparison.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:46 PM

It's outrageous that L6 has completely blown off 10% of their potential customers by completely ignoring lefties.  I'd buy a left-handed Variax in a second.  Guess my money is not good enough.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 07:31 PM

Not enough volume to be worth the effort.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 07:13 AM

It's outrageous that L6 has completely blown off 10% of their potential customers by completely ignoring lefties.  I'd buy a left-handed Variax in a second.  Guess my money is not good enough.

 

Where is the 10% number coming from? It's estimated that 7 - 10% of the total population is left-handed. I don't know how that translates to guitarists, though. It seems like the percentage of guitarists who play left-handed would be much lower than that, though. There are plenty of left-handed people who play right-handed. I write left-handed, for example, but I've always played guitar right-handed. Actually trying to play a left-handed guitar was nothing I ever considered.

 

I'm not arguing against a left-handed Variax. I just doubt that 10% number listed above.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:16 AM

Hendrix notably did not restring the guitar - the high-E was on the top.  I get where you're going with wanting left-handed Variax models but all I'm saying is that Hendrix is not a good example.  

 

But, if you want a traditional lefty Varaix I would think you could swap transducer assignments without too much trouble. 

 

I don't know one way or the other...way before my time, but these photos would seem to argue that he did restring his guitars. Looks like low E on top to me...Now Eric Gales, on the other hand does indeed play lefty AND upside down.  Seen that for myself.

 

http://www.fanpix.ne...re-26657098.htm

 

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:22 AM

Where is the 10% number coming from? It's estimated that 7 - 10% of the total population is left-handed. I don't know how that translates to guitarists, though. It seems like the percentage of guitarists who play left-handed would be much lower than that, though. There are plenty of left-handed people who play right-handed. I write left-handed, for example, but I've always played guitar right-handed. Actually trying to play a left-handed guitar was nothing I ever considered.

 

I'm not arguing against a left-handed Variax. I just doubt that 10% number listed above.

 

Yeah, I dunno about that either...go to any GC or similar Big Box music store (whichever ones still exist). There will be 500+ righty guitars, and maybe half-dozen lefties, if that.  Nobody caters to the lefty...which admittedly sucks for those players. But if there really was a 10% market share, you'd see more on the racks, but you don't. When I used to teach, any square one beginner who wanted to play lefty, I would try and steer them away from it.  If you can't play at all anyway, what difference does it make?...might as well start out righty.  At least you'll be able to find a guitar...


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:40 AM

10% share isn't going to excite any manufacturer. (I'm talking 10% of what they could sell right handed)  It's not that big a deal to convert a guitar to lefty.  It is harder but can be done with a little work on a Variax.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:33 AM

I don't know one way or the other...way before my time, but these photos would seem to argue that he did restring his guitars. Looks like low E on top to me...Now Eric Gales, on the other hand does indeed play lefty AND upside down.  Seen that for myself.

 

http://www.fanpix.ne...re-26657098.htm

 

http://www.contactmu...hendrix_1992826

 

That's an old post.  As many folks pointed out, Hendrix did indeed restring his guitar.  I have no idea where I picked up the impression it was otherwise. 


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 04:33 PM

You are aware that Hendrix played a right-handed Strat flipped over, aren't you?

You are aware that the right hand strat was strung left hand aren't you?


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 04:36 PM

Hendrix notably did not restring the guitar - the high-E was on the top.

Wrong. You can look at pictures and see his guitar was strung left hand.


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