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#1 Jhatem81

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:44 AM

What kind of amp models/effects are you using? Are you doing the standard dual delays/heavy reverb--hillsong type stuff?


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#2 BigChas52

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:29 AM

I've been on a 6 month break, but most of my patches were built around AC30 TB.  I use digital delay with dotted eighth setting, sometimes a lot, but most of the time sparingly.  It's almost always on to some degree.  I use OctoVerb from time to time as well.

 

Sorry I don't have any patches to share.  My previous patches were all for HD500/DT25, and were mostly dual amp.  The AC30 was almost always the dominant amp.  I'm in the process of rebuilding my patches without dual amp, for both HD500/DT25, and HD500 direct into Front of House mixer.


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#3 Luigo69

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:32 AM

Hi,

I use my HD500 for worship and I think you can get really good sounds from it, even replicate those sought after top worshipers sounds such as Hillsong, as far of the FX used, I think it is a matter of personal taste, not sure how to answer your question but YES, you can do this with the HD500.

 

There are a bunch of these already made presets available to download at the Customtone section.


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#4 joemama78

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:48 PM

I took down my worship tones from custom tone because they're nothing special, but I am very happy with what I have. My main patch is a clean B-man with compression for cleans and a screamer for dirt, with moderate reverb and digital delay. I have the same set-up with a Hiway amp, and similar with a DrZ Route 66 set to break up.

 

I posted an ambient patch drenched in delay and verb here: http://line6.com/cus...ne/tone/224295.

 

I downloaded this patch and use it very often: http://line6.com/cus...ne/tone/209576/

 

Hope that is some amount of help.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:53 PM

One key to developing live patches is no reverb.  Generally the room's reverb is enough (unless you're meeting in a movie theater which we currently are.  Completely dead).  Just delay.  The exception, of course, would be where reverb is more of an effect for those really ambient tones.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 03:57 PM

I have started using dual delays in parallel.  I usually have something like a 1/4 note digital delay in one chain, and a dotted eighth or triplet in the other chain.  Very light reverb, mostly clean Hiwatt model, and it varies from there.  I have my exp-1 set to go from straight violin to fully effected on almost all of my patches, exp-2 sets delay volume and feed back from 45% and 4 repeats up to 60% and single repeats, for when I want more of a doubler sound.  Also running a Ball VP jr in front. I have some very delay heavy patches, for a string ensemble sound and a Gilmour-esque washy sound.  I haven't spent so much time building new effect chains as I have squeezing better tone out of it.  A year later, I'm still very happy with the HD500.  


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:41 PM

I use the HiWatt, Soldano Clean, Fender Twin and Fender Super Deluxe Reverb for the largest percentage of my patxhes. I use chorus, flanger, tremolo, delay (dotted eighth, quarter, slapback, auto-swell, reverse delay) and paricle verb. I rarely use reverb unless needed and use the regular room reverb instead.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:37 AM

tweed brt for clean  marshall plexi 1959 and soldano crunch to me are the best amps, dinamic delay for solos, pitch glide as chorus


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 06:56 AM

Use mine every Sunday. I don't think I can say I have any one setup I use more than others. I also don't try to copy sounds from the recordings. I like to create my patches for what works for me in my situation (I program in the main sanctuary using the main P.A. as my reference). I also use click tracks to keep lighting and video in sync so I put midi patch changes into the click track laptop and those happen for me within every song. Love it!


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:39 AM

I use mine every Sunday as well.

I ended up using the AC30 amp sim with 1/4 note and .8th stacked with the .8th switchable with FS1. Analog Chorus Switchable on FS2. Tube Screamer Switchable on FS3, and Classic Distortion Switchable on FS4.

I use this patch on FS5-8, with all Dirt and .8th disabled for FS5 (clean), Distortion,Chorus, and .8th disabled for FS6 (Drive) .8th and Chorus disabled and 1/4 note changed to 1/16th high mix rate on FS7 (for mandolin type rapid picking), Full patch and nothing disabled for FS8 (Dot 8th patch)

After changing to a small PA for patch tweaking, my tones are pretty good.

With Avioms the rig works pretty good, and I am constantly learning new way to use it.

It was a good move for the situation....


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:28 AM

I've used the HD500 for a while now and have settled in on the Soldano clean and crunch amps. A noise gate (P90s and automated stage lighting causes lots of hum) and some mild compression are always on, as is a small chamber reverb. I use digital delay sparingly, usually with a 1/4 or dotted 1/8 settling. I add in a tuber screamer for solos and the occasional chorus, phaser, flanger. The delay, tube screamer, & modulation leaves me with one foot switch left available for something special when needed. I usually set up ABCD to be clean, mild crunch, major crunch, hi-gain, but I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the 5msec delay when switching presets. I don't always have that much time to switch sounds so I'll be moving to the FS1-8 paradigm. 5msec doesn't sound like much but it mutes the sound while the new preset loads in and a 5msec mute is very much noticable.

 

I use Channel  B (mic input) for my acoustic instruments. This only contains gain and EQ. Different patches are switched in for acoustic guitar, mandolin, uke, and banjo, so they all come out at about the same level. The EQ is set to null out the few major feedback modes I get with acoustics. Thsi works very well, except the tuner is only active on the guitar 1/4" input, so I have to use an external tuner (kind of defeats the purpose of using the high quality XLR mic input). Because of this I'll be reconfiguring this to allow me to plug into the guitar 1/4" jack for all instruments and use different presets as I change instruments. I can't change instruments in 5msec, I'm good with that.

 

This all comes out the XLR to the main mixer. I'm very happy with this setup. It's quality is about 80% of a purely analog setup but the convenience is well worth it. Almost all of the people in the congregation don't notice the difference and half of the other guitar players who use analog systems don't get the best sound out of them anyway (that I've noticed in our church anyway), so it's pretty much a no-brainer to go the HD500 rout.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 11:25 AM

I've been using my POD HD500 in worship now for just a little over 1 year.  The tones are really quite good.  I too will use an ABCD clean to hi-gain methodology ... and agree that the 5ms delay is frustrating.  I'm primarily using the ENGL amp model for high gain leads (sorry, I can't remember off the top of my head what I'm using for cleans).  I love using the Octo-verb when our keyboard player moves to the piano.  I just need to find more time to make more patches with layered delays and more effects.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 01:18 PM

I have the 500X now, and the extra DSP is welcome for pad effects.

I have 6 main patches - one that's clean to grit, one that's grit to crunch, one that's crunch to distortion, one that's distortion to full overdrive, and two that are pad type patches. I generally use these as the basis for any song patch that I'm going to be making for a particular week.

Since I have single coils all my patches start with a noise gate. And I generally try to end all of my patches with a studio EQ since I don't always know what the patches will sound like in whatever system I'll be plugged in to, and may need to adjust them.

Every patch also has at least one delay set to FS2, a boost or distortion pedal set to FS1, some kind of modulation effect (usually chorus) set to FS3, and occasionally a wah set to FS4. I have a second pedal that I will occasionally use for volume, but it's fairly rare. I will always use a tiny bit of reverb on each patch, but when you're playing in a large space, I will cut it down to about half of what I think I need, and it's generally pretty close.

I try to listen to each song while I'm editing to match my tone to the track since that makes everyone pretty happy. So far the Soldano and Plexi patches seem to cover most of modern worship sounds for me. Since I don't always know what I'll be playing, I try to set up my patches in a way that will cover both the lead territory as well as the rhythm. That sometimes requires some major creativity and multiple things set for each foot-switch. I'm pretty big on trying to keep one patch per song.
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#14 Jhatem81

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:30 AM

thanks. This has been very helpful. Have any of you all posted tones on customtone?


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:02 AM

Hi I also play at church / gospel /worship quire(hd500/dt25)

 

I don,t get the phrase "worship tone" , wat is the difference with regular guitar tones??

I just set up my tones the way I like them and have different types of patches for each type of worship/gospel song we play, not thinking about how a "worship tone" should sound like.

forgive me it is not meant disrespectful in any way I,m just wondering. 

I,m from the Netherlands by the way, maybe this is more of a US thing?


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:19 AM

Hi I also play at church / gospel /worship quire(hd500/dt25)

 

I don,t get the phrase "worship tone" , wat is the difference with regular guitar tones??

I just set up my tones the way I like them and have different types of patches for each type of worship/gospel song we play, not thinking about how a "worship tone" should sound like.

forgive me it is not meant disrespectful in any way I,m just wondering. 

I,m from the Netherlands by the way, maybe this is more of a US thing?

 

I think it's not so much "worship tone" but tones that work well for typical contemporary worship, such as Hillsong, Tomlin, Redman, etc.  I, like you, make my own tones, for my own taste, and select the ones that best match the flavor of a particular song.


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:35 AM

I use one I downloaded from Customtone called "Worship DIstortion". That is my main tone for most of the songs. I have the Lincoln Brewster patches also when I want to back off the gain some. I am running it in front of a Vox ADT50. So far, I am loving it!


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 03:05 AM

I'm using a modified version of Lincoln Brewsters patches (park 75 model). I plan on using those patches as a comparison as I build other patches using the vox and baseman models. Knowing how the LB patches sound at church and home give me good baseline to compare other tones. The alto ts10 really helps at home. Previously I was using a tech 21 pe60 and the end result was that patches that sounded good at home came out too bright and digital at church.

Doug Doppler who demos a lot of gear YouTube including line6 and tech 21 products, has some interesting vox ac 330 patches posted on his site. A big difference in volume so to use at church I need to balance these out with the louder LB patches.
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Posted 12 August 2013 - 04:57 AM

If you guys were building a patch for the intro of Whom Shall I fear? How would you do it? Id love to emulate this tone with the HD 500

 


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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:01 AM

I just use my regular patches. Most of the time I'm using one of the Fender models, occasionally the DrZ. The idea of re-hashing the U2>Hillsong>Tomlin>Jesus Culture sound just seems a little off to me. IMHO.
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