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#381 Al-Vixan

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 03:54 AM

@The_Doc_Rock: I live in Spain and bought my JTV-59 Tobacco sunburst from the German website Thomann.de during the last Christmas when it got the price reduced for a few days.  I have exactly the same problemas as you.  FW 2.0 sounds awful in most of the settings, and nothing like the videos I've see on youtube demonstrating FW 2.0.  Did you by chance bought the guitar during the same time or supplier?  I just ask if maybe your guitar is in the same batch as mine.

 

I haven't opened a support ticket, but I'm going to soon.  I will keep you informed about its replies when I do so.

 

Best regards and thanks everybody for your help!


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#382 The_Doc_Rock

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:31 PM

@Al-Vixan: I'm in Australia, and I bought mine from the USA - not from Thomann.de

 

I think it was back in 2011 going by the date I registered the instrument on the Line 6 web site.

 

I did open a ticket, and Line6Hugo was very helpful, but we still couldn't fix the problem - the final suggestion was that it may be faulty electronics (eg RAM chips or whatever) COMBINED with the v2.0 firmware, given that everything works fine with v1.9

 

I did point Hugo to this thread, which he read, as I had mentioned that there were a few others that reported exactly the same problems.  So yours is yet one more with the same problems.

 

I'd suggest you open a ticket, and maybe refer to my ticket and to Line6Hugo, so that the same person deals with it.  If they get more than one ticket, then it's unlikely to be JUST a problem with the hardware, and perhaps they can track down the problem and fix it in v2.1.... :)

 

My ticket ID is 216662

 

I've just updated my ticket to suggest that Hugo look at this thread again, and your post. 


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#383 psarkissian

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:28 AM

Al--- Did you use the update document circulating around? The posting "Try This" and Johnnyayy's and a couple of Doc Rock's postings have good tips.

 

Had one JTV the other day, that after update, it took two more "re-install" tries before it locked in the firmware and got an "update successful" message on the screen.

 

drdamski--- With the 1/4" plug to engage the battery, try a Tip-Ring-Sleeve type,... if you aren't already.

 

 

 

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#384 drdamski

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:30 PM

Thanks psarkissian, I'll bear that in mind.

 

Also, I tweeted Line 6 on this and asked if they had a trouble shooting resource... they kindly replied and said to go here, which between work and gigs, I've not had chance to do yet...

 

I'll try to get time soon to go through the steps suggested.

 

Cheers!


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:02 AM

I've been playing a bit with 2.0, using the presets I had on my HD500, which were made for the previous firmware I was sticking to (1.71).

 

Palm muting....waaaaaaaaaaay better

Gibsons....waaaaaaaaaaaaay better

Teles....waaaaaaaaay better

Strat...waaaaaaaaaay worse

Acoustics...mixed feelings on those...I used to love the dread, and now I can't use it, and I use to hate the gibson and now it's my fav and the one I use.

Don't really care for the others...

 

All the presets I had with strats now sound awful...I mean...damn...they just suck now...I could probably get them working again with a lot of tweaking on the presets (and on WB), but all the other presets sound so much better, specially the ones made with the lesters...wow, so much better...I really felt like I had a real fu....ing les paul in my hands!!  The feel, tone, dynamics are way better!

 

WAY TO GO Line 6!!! just fix that f..... strat ;) I'm sure you will make us all happy real soon 


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#386 phil_m

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:34 AM

WAY TO GO Line 6!!! just fix that f..... strat ;) I'm sure you will make us all happy real soon

 

 

Well, they aren't going to change the Strat... So you should get to work re-doing those presets! Not trying to be a jerk, but, really, I'm just telling how it is. They aren't going to be changing that model anytime soon (nor any of the other models).


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:11 AM

I tried to simulate a similar equalization in pod hd but it was not good

Yes here's some screen caps from the Tonematch, Multiband Compressor, Parametric EQ and Graphic EQ blocks :

 

But as I said the complex EQ of the tonematch block brings the final touch, and for that you'll need something like Ozone on your computer


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:15 AM

Anybody knows what pick ups used knopfler at his strat on brothers in arms? i want to swap the useless mags on my 69s with these.


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#389 johnnyayyy

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:32 AM

Johnnyayy's and a couple of Doc Rock's postings have good tips.

 

P.B. Sarkissian

 

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#390 The_Doc_Rock

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:49 PM

Anybody knows what pick ups used knopfler at his strat on brothers in arms? i want to swap the useless mags on my 69s with these.

 

First, the mags on my JTV69US are great. Second, the sound Mark Knopfler gets is NOT mainly due to his pickups (although they would play a small part). The sound is due to the way he plays, and to his touch. He plays with his thumb, not a pick, and the position of that very long thumb, along with the feel he imparts in the way he strokes or plucks the strings is the reason for his sound.

 

Give almost ANY guitar to Mark Knopfler, and he will sound like Knopfler. Changing the pickups on any of your guitars is not going to make you sound like him.

 

Wanting to change pickups, or worse - guitars - to something that somebody else uses, in order to "sound like them" is one of the big mistakes so many people make.

 

I can pick up George Benson's guitar and play it, but there is no way that I would sound like George Benson!


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#391 arislaf

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:50 PM

This is not helpfull.


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#392 Charlie_Watt

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:53 PM

May not be helpful but it's true!


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#393 arislaf

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:57 PM

Guys, what is wrong with you?It is such a big deal that i don't like the pickups of the jtv??Or my question is not in english?I didn't ask how to become mark knopfler, I ask what pick ups he uses...


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#394 spmartin

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:59 PM

I have a JTV-69s. I have played many, many guitars - both single coil and humbucker style. The pickups on this guitar are, IMHO, very, very good. Nice broad range of sounds and strengths and pretty darn quiet. This is coming from someone who swapped out my Deluxe Strat pickups for Lace Sensors. I am not motivated in the least to change these in the Variax. Nice job, James Tyler.


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:55 PM

Anybody knows what pick ups used knopfler at his strat on brothers in arms? i want to swap the useless mags on my 69s with these.

 

I don't know which PUPs he used in "brothers in arms", but I know he likes DiMarzio FS-1 PUPs..

 

give a look here, should be interesting for you:

http://www.mk-guitar...d-stratocaster/


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#396 The_Doc_Rock

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:42 PM

This is not helpfull.

 

Sorry if my reply came across as unhelpful.  It was not intended that way.  But your question sounded as though you wanted to sound like Knopfler, and to do it, that you thought you needed to change out the pickups on the JTV.

 

The point I was trying to make - and obviously didn't make it very well - was that Knopfler sounds like he does because he is Knopfler.  Hank Marvin will always sound like Hank Marvin - no matter what he plays, and no matter what pickups are on it.  There are just some players who have such distinctive playing techniques that result in highly individual sounds.  And I really doubt that the pickups make much difference, to be honest.

 

If you don't like the sound or the response of the mag pickups on the Variax, then fine, change them for that reason, to something you prefer.  But to change them in order to sound like a specific sound - eg Brothers In Arms - would be an expensive mistake I suspect.

 

Again, apologies if my reply was less than helpful.


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#397 johnnyayyy

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:47 PM

Anybody knows what pick ups used knopfler at his strat on brothers in arms? i want to swap the useless mags on my 69s with these.

 

 

I was thinking Brothers In Arms would have been from the Pensa/Suhr era for MK, looked it up and... if you meant the song "Brothers In Arms" it looks like he used the neck pickup on a Les Paul reissue, for the entire album he used a bunch of different guitars according to this site:

 

http://www.mk-guitar...others-in-arms/

 

 

Knopfler sounds like he does because he is Knopfler - no matter what he plays, and no matter what pickups are on it.  There are just some players who have such distinctive playing techniques that result in highly individual sounds.  And I really doubt that the pickups make much difference, to be honest.

 

Surely you hear a difference between, say, the guitar in Money For Nothing vs. the guitar in Sultans of Swing...? I think the pickups used for those two songs may have contributed at least a small amount to the diffference in sound...

 

 


If you don't like the sound or the response of the mag pickups on the Variax, then fine, change them for that reason, to something you prefer.  But to change them in order to sound like a specific sound - eg Brothers In Arms - would be an expensive mistake I suspect.

 

 

I seem to recall reading in Guitar Player Magazine an interview with Billy Gibbons from the 80's where Mr. Gibbons stated Mark Knopfler called him up one day and asked him how he got a particular guitar tone on a particular ZZ Top song as he was trying to replicate it on Money For Nothing... I believe that if it was OK for MK to attempt to recreate a classic guitar tone it should be okay for any of us to attempt to do the same...

 

 

The point I was trying to make - and obviously didn't make it very well - was that Knopfler sounds like he does because he is Knopfler.  Hank Marvin will always sound like Hank Marvin - no matter what he plays, and no matter what pickups are on it.  There are just some players who have such distinctive playing techniques that result in highly individual sounds.  And I really doubt that the pickups make much difference, to be honest.

 

I am 100% certain that if Mark Knopfler had used, for instance, my new Fender Pawn Shop 72 Strat to record Sultans of Swing it would have sounded quite different that the classic version we all know... I guarantee it... sure it might sound like the same guy playing and it would probably still sound good, but it would definitely sound different.

 

According to internet sources Mark Knopfler used at least 10 different guitars on the Brothers In Arms album. Now maybe the album would have sounded exactly the same if he had just used one guitar the whole time but I really doubt it... certainly he did not use all those different guitars because he was bored...? There must have been a good reason to use a Les Paul on one song and a Suhr Custom on another and a Schecter Tele on another and and and... wow, someone should probably turn MK on to the Variax, bet he would love it...

 

Also, for the earlier Dire Straits sound (first two albums I think) you just need some vintage original 1961 or 1962 Fender Stratocaster pickups for the bridge and middle and a DiMarzio FS-1 for the neck, though they will sound a bit different if installed in a JTV-69... you might just want to buy a complete '62 Strat and swap in the DiMarzio in the neck... ;)


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#398 arislaf

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 11:28 PM

Sorry if my reply came across as unhelpful.  It was not intended that way.  But your question sounded as though you wanted to sound like Knopfler, and to do it, that you thought you needed to change out the pickups on the JTV.

 

The point I was trying to make - and obviously didn't make it very well - was that Knopfler sounds like he does because he is Knopfler.  Hank Marvin will always sound like Hank Marvin - no matter what he plays, and no matter what pickups are on it.  There are just some players who have such distinctive playing techniques that result in highly individual sounds.  And I really doubt that the pickups make much difference, to be honest.

 

If you don't like the sound or the response of the mag pickups on the Variax, then fine, change them for that reason, to something you prefer.  But to change them in order to sound like a specific sound - eg Brothers In Arms - would be an expensive mistake I suspect.

 

Again, apologies if my reply was less than helpful.

No problem, my apologies for going crazy from my side also.

 

I don't know which PUPs he used in "brothers in arms", but I know he likes DiMarzio FS-1 PUPs..

 

give a look here, should be interesting for you:

http://www.mk-guitar...d-stratocaster/

That is helpfull.Thanks Hurghanico!!

 

I was thinking Brothers In Arms would have been from the Pensa/Suhr era for MK, looked it up and... if you meant the song "Brothers In Arms" it looks like he used the neck pickup on a Les Paul reissue, for the entire album he used a bunch of different guitars according to this site:

 

http://www.mk-guitar...others-in-arms/

 

:o

 

 

 

Surely you hear a difference between, say, the guitar in Money For Nothing vs. the guitar in Sultans of Swing...? I think the pickups used for those two songs may have contributed at least a small amount to the diffference in sound...

 

 

 

I seem to recall reading in Guitar Player Magazine an interview with Billy Gibbons from the 80's where Mr. Gibbons stated Mark Knopfler called him up one day and asked him how he got a particular guitar tone on a particular ZZ Top song as he was trying to replicate it on Money For Nothing... I believe that if it was OK for MK to attempt to recreate a classic guitar tone it should be okay for any of us to attempt to do the same...

 

True

 

 

 

I am 100% certain that if Mark Knopfler had used, for instance, my new Fender Pawn Shop 72 Strat to record Sultans of Swing it would have sounded quite different that the classic version we all know... I guarantee it... sure it might sound like the same guy playing and it would probably still sound good, but it would definitely sound different.

 

Also correct

 

 wow, someone should probably turn MK on to the Variax, bet he would love it...

 

ROFL

 

Also, for the earlier Dire Straits sound (first two albums I think) you just need some vintage original 1961 or 1962 Fender Stratocaster pickups for the bridge and middle and a DiMarzio FS-1 for the neck, though they will sound a bit different if installed in a JTV-69... you might just want to buy a complete '62 Strat and swap in the DiMarzio in the neck... ;)

 

Thanks a lot jonyayyy :)


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#399 glynn_bird

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:41 AM

I love my JTV Variax! I installed v 2.0 update on my JTV-59 and I have found the following:

 

* new Teles sound great, especially like the 2 & 4 versions with humbuckers, which are much better than the useless 2&4 models in 1.9

* Spank models generally thinner sounding and 2&4 not as distinctive as 1.9's 2 & 4

* Semi - much cooler sound.  I much prefer the 1.9 version which has a warm an resonant tone

* all 12 string models - a touch better than 1.9

 

After spending ages adjusting amp settings on my POD HD I concluded that , on balance, I preferred the 1.9 firmware and I reflashed my JTV back to 1.9. It was like coming home! Shame to lose the new Tele, but my guitar sounds louder and better now. Maybe it's because I was used to the 1.9 and the change in 2.0 was too much, but for me the poor quality of the Strat and the Semi were deal breakers for me.

 

There seems to be a lot of superstitious comments in this forum about firmware updates "not taking", but I find it difficult to believe that a digital device can "partially" take a software update. I believe personal preference is in play here and that some people are finding the 2.0 models too thin.

 

Luckily it's very simple to rollback!


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 05:37 PM

Same here. Strat and semi lost all the midrange character I've liked since even before the JTV. Even the 500 had this character. Gone now. Staying on 1.9.


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