Panning

[pacard]

Hey All,

 

So I'm begrudgingly learning the pedal....just sooo many options but I'm intent on getting there. This is my set up. I've got an amp with two discreet channels. Both channels have separate XLR inputs & separate EQ's. My intent is to plug by electric guitar into the GUITAR IN and my acoustic guitar into the AUX IN.  GUITAR IN will go to my amp's CH 1 and the acoustic will route to the amp's CH 2. 

 

After doing some reading, I've learned I can pan my electric guitar patches to 100%L and intend to make my acoustic guitar patches pan to 100%R.  Before I got too deep, I decided to try this just using my electric guitar.  I panned the patch 100%L and then used the HD's XLR RIGHT to CH1. I was trying to make sure there wouldn't be any sound in the right channel when the mixer was panned 100% L.   Sure enough, I can still hear my electric guitar in the right channel.  So, I took the same patch, panned it 100% R and then used the XLR LEFT to my amp's CH 1. Same thing. I'm trying to avoid sound coming out of both channels (even if one is faint)

 

What am I doing wrong? Any suggestions?  Thanks!

[sugardaddy1979]

What do you have the inputs in the patch set to?

[pianoguyy]

It's early in the morning, so maybe my fuzzy eyes missed it... 

 

But I didn't see you say that you were creating separate signal chains. 

Your Pod shouldn't look like this: 

 

It should look like this:

 

[brue58ski]

+1 to what pianoguy said. I'm guessing somewhere after the mixer, you have some FX. Those FX are likely summing your left and right signal. Each path should be completely it's own with nothing inserted after the mixer. Here's an old post that will direct you to some threads that will help with the routing issue.

 

http://line6.com/support/topic/2033-pod-hd-500-500x-new-routing-schematics/?hl=paths

http://line6.com/supportarchivenew/thread/74045?start=0&tstart=0

Here's more


http://line6.com/support/topic/4586-pod-hd500-hd500x-input-settings-phase-issue-myth-and-facts-single-input-vs-both-inputs/

[pacard]

Thanks guys.

 

Pianoguyy, I believe your picture approximates my signal chain.  I didn't realize summing the signal would limit panning. Odd.

 

Brue58, thanks for the links. I'll do a bit more reading to understand how to avoid the problem.

 

Much appreciated.

[pacard]

Sugardaddy,

 

Input 1:  Guitar

Input 2:  Aux

[pacard]

Those links helped tremendously. Thank you!

 

If I'm understanding this correctly, a mono fx block in the PRE position duplicates Input 1's output into the L & R channel. This explains why I couldn't isolate Input 1 to the Left channel. And if I'm understanding brew58's post, I can't have a mono effect after the mixer either.

 

Now, if the mono fx block is in the PATH A/B section, I don't get the -6dB signal loss which could mean more distortion. I can't put it in the POST position because I lose the ability to isolate the Input to a single channel. So this gets interesting when I'm using an acoustic guitar in the AUX input. I'd rather not have the added potential distortion but I need to isolate Input 2 to the Right channel.

 

So, maybe if I were to use a stereo fx block in the last PRE position or in the very last position (post mixer), I could still have the ability to isolate the acoustic guitar's output to the R channel and not have the output at 0dB (vs -6dB)?? 

 

It's late, my head is spinning. I need to digest, but I feel like I'm closer to (partial) true enlightenment. B)

[pianoguyy]

Silverhead has guitar/mic patch that he shares. Perhaps someone can link you to one of the posts where he explains how to use it (if it wasn't one of the above posts).

[pacard]

Thanks pianoguyy. I'll continue reading. 

 

Is my conclusion correct regarding ending the pre stage or final post stage w/ a stereo fx block?