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Using Preamp with pod hd to ditch 4cm


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Hello there,

 

I am currently using the pod hd500x (4cm) into fx loop of a blackstar ht40 ... I am expecting a theta preamp + distortion pedal that i will basically use to get my tone( cleans and dist) instead of relying on my amp for gigs.. Anyway i want to ditch the 4cm and just plug normally into the HD like this: guitar--preamp/disortion---hd (for delays/ reverbs and modulation only)--- amp So you guys think the HD500x will still compomise my tone? Keeping in mind that i will no longer use my amp for distortions and that i have a LPB1 booster that i can maybe use to compensate any signal loss

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I don't pretend to fully understand what you said.

But, to answer the question - anything plugged in to the chain is going to compomise your tone. I know guys who use one foot cords to get the purest tone between the guitar and amp.

 

Of course, I don't know you. Therefore I don't know if you are going to hear the difference. But at least you know the answer.

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Let me tag on to PG, right now as you don't have the gear so you really don't have a tone to be affected. I would look into using the HD's loop in lieu of running a preamp into its input. As far as signal loss goes there isn't really much that should occur going straight to the board - ampless.

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Sorry for not making myself clear.. What i noticed is that the 4cm really compromises the amp tone..my question is if I don't use the FX loop on the pod will this tone suck still be there? I.e will the sound coming from preamp pedal be affected in the pod?

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Everything in the signal chain affects your sound to a greater or lesser degree, and no two rigs are ever gonna produce the same results/symptoms....plus, it's all entirely subjective anyway. They're is exactly ONE way to find out if there will be a noticeable difference between any two configurations, and nobody can predict how it'll turn out.

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As the pedal is a preamp run it into the FX return as the signal is already been pre amp'd.

You have a Left and a Right return.

Problem is the amount of gain you can get might clip the HD.

There is likely going to be a tone suck.

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tone suck using loops is typically when the loops are not driven properly and the output stage (FX send) is both resistively and capacitively loaded by the cable to the fx units, and the input stage of the first FX unit... if your amp does not state "tube buffered fx loop" then you are highly prone to tone suck.

 

Try using a buffer immediately at the FX send of the amp, then run the cable to the hd500.. i am guess that the outs of the HD500 have a decent and clean buffer to drive the FX return decently enough

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Just as Mystic Recommends a Buffer would be better to use than a Booster -

Best way to remember the difference:

A Buffer helps with maintaining signal tone through out an FX loop/pedal board

A Booster helps with maintain or boost the signal volume throughout an FX loop/pedal board -

 

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