shadifg Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Hello there, I am currently using the pod hd500x (4cm) into fx loop of a blackstar ht40 ... I am expecting a theta preamp + distortion pedal that i will basically use to get my tone( cleans and dist) instead of relying on my amp for gigs.. Anyway i want to ditch the 4cm and just plug normally into the HD like this: guitar--preamp/disortion---hd (for delays/ reverbs and modulation only)--- amp So you guys think the HD500x will still compomise my tone? Keeping in mind that i will no longer use my amp for distortions and that i have a LPB1 booster that i can maybe use to compensate any signal loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I don't pretend to fully understand what you said. But, to answer the question - anything plugged in to the chain is going to compomise your tone. I know guys who use one foot cords to get the purest tone between the guitar and amp. Of course, I don't know you. Therefore I don't know if you are going to hear the difference. But at least you know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Let me tag on to PG, right now as you don't have the gear so you really don't have a tone to be affected. I would look into using the HD's loop in lieu of running a preamp into its input. As far as signal loss goes there isn't really much that should occur going straight to the board - ampless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadifg Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 Sorry for not making myself clear.. What i noticed is that the 4cm really compromises the amp tone..my question is if I don't use the FX loop on the pod will this tone suck still be there? I.e will the sound coming from preamp pedal be affected in the pod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Everything in the signal chain affects your sound to a greater or lesser degree, and no two rigs are ever gonna produce the same results/symptoms....plus, it's all entirely subjective anyway. They're is exactly ONE way to find out if there will be a noticeable difference between any two configurations, and nobody can predict how it'll turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfsmith0 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I highly recommend not using anything in front of the Pod. It is way too easy to get digital clipping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnette Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 As the pedal is a preamp run it into the FX return as the signal is already been pre amp'd. You have a Left and a Right return. Problem is the amount of gain you can get might clip the HD. There is likely going to be a tone suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadifg Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 Yes that's exactly what i am planning to do ... And the pedal has a huge headroom and will produce lots of gain... Do tou think i can fix this tone suck by integrating a booster pedal after the HD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic38 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 tone suck using loops is typically when the loops are not driven properly and the output stage (FX send) is both resistively and capacitively loaded by the cable to the fx units, and the input stage of the first FX unit... if your amp does not state "tube buffered fx loop" then you are highly prone to tone suck. Try using a buffer immediately at the FX send of the amp, then run the cable to the hd500.. i am guess that the outs of the HD500 have a decent and clean buffer to drive the FX return decently enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxTravelor Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just as Mystic Recommends a Buffer would be better to use than a Booster - Best way to remember the difference: A Buffer helps with maintaining signal tone through out an FX loop/pedal board A Booster helps with maintain or boost the signal volume throughout an FX loop/pedal board - Trav... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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