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I help lead worship at my church and play lead/electric guitar and we practice on Thursdays.  I had all my sounds programmed in for the songs we were doing and then when I got to the church on Sunday to run through the songs I noticed that my sound was not very loud in my monitor and the sound guy had to turn me way up.  He claims he didn't change any settings since we practiced and I didn't either.  The sounds were great and nothing else was affected but he had to turn me way up in the monitors and the mains.  I checked everything I could think of and nothing was out of place.  

Does anybody have any suggestions on what could have happened or what I can check in my pod?

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I had 4 patches and they were all affected.  If I hit the "master volume" by mistake on one of the patches it would only affect that patch, correct?  I don't think it would affect all of the patches.

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I've done what PFsmith said and the Master is the master volume of all patches.

 

If nothing else is wrong you can always check the vol pedal calibration too.

 

If the Onboard expression pedal of the POD HD500 does not sweep through parameter values as it normally would, you may need to perform a pedal calibration to reset the functionality of the expression pedal:

Hold the down the RIGHT ARROW button on the 4 Way Nav Pad while powering the unit on, until you see the “Test Mode†screen (Pedal Cal, etc.), and then proceed with the steps below:

  • If not already selected, use on the 4 Way Nav Pad to select “Pedal Cal,†as shown above.
  • Press the VIEW button.
  • Set the pedal to the minimum “heel†position, then press the A footswitch to set a value for the Duty Cycle. You’ll see the value set to “100.â€
  • Set the pedal to the maximum “toe†position, then press the B footswitch to set a value for the Duty Cycle. Again, you’ll see the value set to “100,†as in step 3.
  • Press the C footswitch to prepare for automatic selection of the Scaled Pedal Value and move the pedal from min. to max. You should see the Scaled Pedal Values read “0†at the heel position and “255†and the toe position. If you get values other than 0 and 255, power off and repeat these steps, starting at step 1.
  • Press the D footswitch to save the settings. You’ll be returned to the Test Mode screen and the Pedal Cal item will show a “P†to indicated that the pedal calibration is complete! Power your device off and back on again to start using it.

***Please Note: Re-calibration of the POD HD500's expression pedal is necessary after performing a Global Settings reset. Instructions for how to perform a Global Settings reset is available here.

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I had 4 patches and they were all affected.  If I hit the "master volume" by mistake on one of the patches it would only affect that patch, correct?  I don't think it would affect all of the patches.

NO. 

Master Volume is the MASTER volume. It reflects overall volume of the unit, not patch volume. 

 

 

 

 

Think of it like watching TV. 

assuming you do not have volume leveling ~~~ You set your volume control. You watch a show. All is well. But then a commercial comes on and "holly crap, turn that down!", because the individual commercial volume is louder than the show volume even though you did not change the volume. 

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Actually the peak volume is not louder on a TV commercial then the normal program material.

But I will agree there is a perceived loudness though the broadcasting community will argue with you that 

a commercial and the program material are the same volume; you and I know the heavy compression and limiting

raises the RMS volume considerably in a commercial.

 

To the OP, it is possible that the sound engineer plugged you in differently though at the time he didn't notice it. Recheck if there was any other change beside having to increase the volume and how did he do that? This will reveal a direction you can trace back.

One way to make a real mystery out of it is to go about adjusting input and output global menus to try to recreate it; Very unscientiffically no answer will be apparent.

Do check and only toggle one change at a time.

But really realize that it was most likely your doing! You changed something just prior!

All you got to do is undo that change!

What did you change?

Good Luck

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I've had this issue with an older Line 6 POD unit and now the same thing with the HD 500x, which I just bought.  There is something where the volume knobs on the unit, volume and master, get saved in new positions where for example 2 o'clock used to be really loud but something happens where 2 o'clock becomes the new 9 o'clock (for example) so then I have to turn the volume knob up to max to get what used to be the 2 o'clock volume.  Then I go into the mixer and turn up the left and right volumes just to get the volume I had before.  So this topic is really important and I'm glad someone brought it up.  This is running it direct through my PA and I didn't touch anything on the PA volumes.  It's something to do with the volume and master knobs getting re-calibrated.  It's a major problem in the situation the OP is talking about and it's exactly what happened to me.

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It does'nt help anyone to be in mystery.

Being fully responsible for your tone and volume is fine except when 

the mystery makes one look unprofessional.

No one wants to look unprofessional!

It is nearly always operator error for me.

When I tweak the volume thru a different set of monitors and

then save it, or not!

Then implement another change in monitoring and save it of not. Usually not.

But the most embarissing is the cables that straddle over the unit and how the knobs are just perfectly designed 

to take a cable and it effects the amp models so easily, it is annoying. Turning off the touch knob function during live use is mandatory.

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