Deep Tweak Presets Question
Posted 02 October 2013 - 11:01 AM
There's really no description on the settings that I could locate.
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:57 PM
...There's really no description on the settings that I could locate...
That may be because they're kinda hard to "describe", Radaj1488 !
I'll "have a go" anyway, but I'm not sure how useful it will be for you as we're really discussing engineering tools ...and "engineering" lives in the "parallel universe" of objective measurements, parameters and specifications, as distinct from subjective "descriptions" like
...bar band... ...praise band... ...small acoustic type gig... ...rock music... ...pop... ...dance...
I'd say that the descriptions appearing on the X-Y touchscreen for "Quick Tweak" are the ones that will not only better suit most "grab it and go" gigging performers, but also many an experienced Audio Director, Sound Supervisor and/or live music Technician as well.
"Quick Tweak" facilitates exactly what its name suggests, while very wisely (IMHO) "locking out" the more "extreme" control settings that may well be employed occasionally by the technically experienced operator, but that may wreak untold havoc if accidentally unleashed by the INexperienced.
As every person has their own idea of exactly what sound a "rock band" (to use just one example) should deliver, the "Quick Tweak" GUI screen allows its operator to very quickly obtain just that ...and then subsequently "save" what they've done under whatever "scene" and/or "setup" terms that best "describe" it to them.
"Deep Tweak", however, is fundamentally intended for those who have previously explored the audible effects created by the "tweaking" of various parameters that are attached to audio processors ...and so "know their way around" those devices.
One (quite possibly unexpected) advantage of Line 6 having provided both is that "playing around" with an M20d becomes a great way to "train one's self" into familiarity with that huge range of control parameters offered by the different processors, so we'd always advise spending as much time as possible doing just that "at home", in the absence of the pressure attached to an actual "gig".
Posted 02 October 2013 - 03:13 PM
Back on topic, I think it could be looked at this way. A very experienced engineer knows roughly what he is going to do EQwise on just about any instrument given a "flat response" starting point. He then "quick tweaks" during sound check. M20D has made that very easy for us. So as Ron says, there is no reason to think that anything on the board was more designed for any level of engineer. But a knowledgeable one, will know more what to do in the "deep tweak" mode than a novice. One of the reasons I really like "quick tweak" is my little fat fingers can hit that dot much easier than moving around the 6 band eq. But the odd time, I have found myself going to "deep tweak" because I know exactly what I want to get rid of. Again, that was usually on the vocals. I find they are the most "unique" out of anything I mix.
Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:44 PM
Aside from the great observations offered by Ron and Digitalsound,I like the quick tweak because it's not drastic changes but it is effective. Plus it's really easy to just tap the middle of the screen and get back to ground zero. So you can try a tweak, and then get back where you started faster than you can flatten out EQ and zero out compression settings. It makes for some quick A/Bing and deciding what you really like.
Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:34 PM
Agreed that the quick tweak is way to go for novice on the fly situations. I'm not planning on really deep tweaking anything. But there are presets included that would seem to be intended as a starting point by someone. It seems logical that you could load the preset of "Uber snare 1" and either leave it as is or quick tweak it with the touch screen to taste. The differences in some of the presets are as simple as what order a compressor is placed in the signal path or wether an EQ is 3 channels or 6.
So what I'm reading is that Line 6 created these patches that can be loaded with ease but they are not be used by anyone but sound engineers? Doesn't make sense to me. Even the main page of the website says new update includes patches by well known engineers. Am I wrong in thinking these are the patches and they were created so the average band could utilize the knowledge of the pros in a preset?
Similar to the presets in the POD or there other products.
Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:53 PM
It looks like you are referring to the DSP types. The presets are what you find in the icon gallery and in the "more" folder in setup mode or in the library in tweak mode. The library pops up when you press the folder icon on the right to the meter in tweak view.
The DSP types, "uber snare", "general" etc. are different processing chains that you find in deep tweak in the inspector window to the right of the meter. These DSP types are combinations of processors or effects like- gate- 6 band eq- compressor- dynamic eq- de esser or similar.
The presets also contain settings tailored to the instrument or voice they are for. A preset is basically the DSP type with settings.
Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:10 AM
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