Ground Control Pro and POD HD Pro X Fix??

[Dustinbeck90]

I know this is a subject that has already been touched on but, I am aquiring a GCP soon. I have a POD HD Pro X. Has there been an update or a fix discovered to make these two units work together 100% yet?

[kingroyal]

4 year old post and I was wondering if the GCP does in fact work seamlessly with the HD Pro X?

[stormstudios]

I've never had a problem getting the GCP controlling the HD Pro X. I'm not sure what Dustin refers to by '100%' in the OP. Maybe he was hoping for some 2-way comms type situation. :shrug:

 

If you're contemplating the purchase of a GCP, it's a great device for controlling a show regardless of the device. Maybe define 'seamlessly'... :)

[kingroyal]

@stormstudios

yeah, by 'seamlessly' I kinda meant this...

On the GCP, I set the settings to "POD?" (in Utilities) and it uploaded/downloaded as much as 36 presets to the GCP (they may be generic presets) which in turn bears no resemblance to what it punches up on my HD Pro X. I don't get what or where these presets are drawn from. In 4 presets /bank, any of the presets do not match up to the Line 6 presets. I tried a few of the setlists but nothing goes with what the GCP is identifying. Even some of the Instant access buttons light up as to which effects are active within the preset.

I'm wondering how yours can up without issue. Did you clear out setlists on the POD or have a special connection like MIDI to download your existing presets straight to the GCP?

Meaning, did you transmit presets via MIDI into the GCP in order for the GCP to "know" what's on your POD?

 

Hope you can answer this, as it would be a gamechanger for me.

 

 

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by kingroyal
left an idea out.

[stormstudios]

Ah, I do remember GCPs being sold specifically for each device (11R and Pod ...maybe from Sweetwater?). Yes, those would be generic presets that were defaults at that time. I have used MIDISysEx but it ends up being easier to start from scratch.

 

Regardless of name of the patch on your Pod, if the MIDI is set up right your pod should be changing patches with the 4 preset switches. GCP 00 = Pod 1A (etc). I assume from your post that this is working but not aligning to your expectation. That's ok.

 

The best 'conceptual' video and a good teacher is Sean Halley (he's done VooDoo Lab and Sweetwater videos at various times). Even though it's 11R, the concepts of GCP settings and the device listening are helpful. The most helpful is how / when to consult the manual (in your case the Pod manual for Line 6 specific MIDI references) to get your controller to be sending what you want it to. There are not a lot of helpful GCP to Pod videos because most rack line 6 users buy the Line 6 floorboard.

 

I'll be near my rack later on today if you need more specific points or someone else might jump in. But Sean lays out all the same concepts for you here in a really good way.
 

 

 

[kingroyal]

@stormstudios

 

Thank you for staying with me on this!

It makes a lot more sense now that you've unlocked the mystery of the POD presets in my GCP.

So to sum up... the presets on my GCP for the POD are really of no use to me, because I just won't find them on my HD Pro X? 

If that's correct then it won't concern me that I'm throwing out presets to rewrite new presets.

The video is very helpful as well as he pointed out the MIDI continuous controller effects that are preloaded in as well.

So now that I know what's going on, I'll take your suggestion and program the GCP individually, using the Line 6 as the reference.  Planning on keeping some presets from the HD Pro X that I like and spending some time creating presets.  

I have a G Major 2 hooked up to the POD and plan to use some of its effects as well via continuous controller numbers. I hope that works out.

Sounds a bit time consuming but interesting at the same time... choosing the effects that I want to punch in/out and assigning continuous controller patches.

 

Again, thank you for that. 

 

[stormstudios]

Of course. You're welcome. The one thing the videos won't get into is Device MIDI channel numbers in the GCP.

If you've got the G Major 2 as well, you can / should have G Major on MIDI Channel 1 and HD Pro X on Channel 2 (instead of OMNI) or vice-versa the order doesn't matter but change your physical device to the appropriate MIDI channel.

 

Grab the manual here: http://www.voodoolab.com/gcontrolpro.htm

 

Read Page 6 onto 7 'Devices'

"Enter Setup mode by pressing both [SETUP MODE] buttons at the same time. Then select this category by pressing [DEVICE NAME/CHANNEL]..."

 

This is where, when you get into Instant Access read out of "CH01' or 'CH02' you can have that footswitch send to only the HDPro or the G Major.

You've got enough to get going. Let us know where you get to. You won't get it all at once but yes just start at the beginning.

[kingroyal]

Yes... I can see the road ahead. I've had some GCP experience but not a lot of continuous controller setups.

I'll try setting up that feature with my own presets and see how well that goes. 

Thanks for laying out the map. I can try to not be too ambitious and just get the simple stuff off and running.

You might hear from me as to how to incorporate some pedals into the mix a little later in the process.

For now, thanks for explaining things. :)