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Double Take...settings? or my ears/tastes weird


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So, I played a little with it last night....I like the way the leads sound when I have it on the '2' setting, and lower the Slop and (I forget the 3rd parameter name).

 

I liked my rhythm sounds as well, but there is a big difference in sound between the single tracked and multi tracked (DUH!!, I know).....but the Double Take preset has a very 'boxy' type feel to it, and its a pretty drastic change when playing along with tracks and practicing that I wonder if it would be too much of a change and sound bad out front in the mix. 

 

 

Is there something I can do to my rhythm presets to get them closer? or is there something I'm missing in the Double Take settings to minimize this?  Am I just missing the boat logically in my head about this (completely possible here).

 

Thanks for any help, and I understand any criticism....lol

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The Modulation > Double Take Block is new in fw 2.30.

 

Sam, Line6's Sound Designer of the feature, recently posted to the massive Helix thread in TheGearPage.net's massive Helix Thread (in The Gear > Digital and Modeling subforum), a description of how it works with details about its various control parameters. Browse back a day or so worth of posts and you'll find the details.

 

I've yet to view the TGP Forums today, and if I have a moment, I'll append the direct link.

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I read the link, used it as a basis for understanding what each parameter does.  I guess I 'understand' the effect......my question was more about the rhythm vs lead sounds. 

 

I suppose I could use the double take on my rhythm patches as well, and use 'lesser' settings for the rhythm.  Right now with it just on my lead presets, they have a more 'box' like quality to the voicing or sound.  Rhythm does not have that.  My question is (or isn't, if I'm thinking wrong) is that normal, or is there a way to make them slightly closer in that voicing?  My rhythms tend to be a bit tighter and the leads with that effect sound more boxy.

 

 

 

I think I answered my own question by just adding the double take to my rhythm presets and lowering the level of the wet signal to minimize, but keep the general feel of it. 

 

Maybe....am I missing something?

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The Modulation > Double Take Block is new in fw 2.30.

 

 

Oh yeah, that one. 

 

I tried it on a couple of presets, but seems to be more intended for a preset set up for stereo. On one of my mono patches, it sounded what could be described as "boxy". That's because the dry and the 30ms "doubled" parts are being collapsed to mono, not allowing the two time offset signals to bounce around and interact. 

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Oh yeah, that one.

 

I tried it on a couple of presets, but seems to be more intended for a preset set up for stereo. On one of my mono patches, it sounded what could be described as "boxy". That's because the dry and the 30ms "doubled" parts are being collapsed to mono, not allowing the two time offset signals to bounce around and interact.

That is phasing. It typically can create a boxy sound, a hollow sound, or a flange/phasy sound depending on how severe the phasing is.

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I get the phasing thing....I've recently switched to sending L/R to the board at the request of my other guitar player and sound guy.  I've always run Mono, so they said even Dual Mono would have some more 'ballz'.  lol...

 

 

When I added it I added at the end of my chain right before the delay/reverb blocks which are both set to stereo, then its out to my outputs, which I use the XLR's usually, but was monitoring via headphones plugged right into the Helix.  I can hear some separation when I play with stereo delays so I don't think my headphones are collapsing something to mono....

 

 

Am I missing something? 

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I get the phasing thing....I've recently switched to sending L/R to the board at the request of my other guitar player and sound guy.  I've always run Mono, so they said even Dual Mono would have some more 'ballz'.  lol...

 

 

Ugh... more balls also can be had with more volume... but...

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