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#1 Talenless

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 01:35 PM

is it accurate enough for intonation adjustment?

 

do you use a stand-alone tuner?


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#2 Mr_Arkadin

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 01:50 PM

For intonation I don't think it would be, neither would most stomp boxes. I use a Peterson StroboStomp2 for intonation checking.


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#3 joel_brown

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:07 PM

Same here.  It doesn't seem accurate enough for me but ok for quick on-the-fly tuning.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:30 PM

For me it is not accurate enough. I use a Korg DTR-1 rack mount tuner


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 02:43 AM

Yes I do use it for everything...


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#6 Stratman82

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 03:23 AM

Yes its a great feature. Accurate enough for my purposes, but I'm not recording.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:05 AM

can't afford the petersen (accepting donations :)

i tend to use the tuner in the pod or the m13/m5

of course i was losing my mind there for a while... the reference pitch got changed on the m13 i started to think that it was crazy inaccurate.

easy enough fix though.


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#8 phil_m

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:12 AM

I always find that in discussions about tuners the terms accuracy and precision are often misused. The tuner on the PODs is accurate, it's just not as precise as some more expensive tuners. What I mean is that if you played a tone - a high E, for example, the HD500 would accurately identify that note. And if you were off a little, it would tell you that, too. What it won't be able to as well is tell you when you're off by just a cent or two. That's a matter of precision, not accuracy. Accuracy has to with how good a device is a giving you a correct measurement. Precision has to do with how small the units of measurements if can do that in is.

 

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 07:56 AM

I use the tuner and it works great. I see no real good reason to spend bookoo bucks on another tuner at the moment. It's always nice to strive for perfection, but many times less = more.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 07:59 AM

Yes.  It suits my needs for on stage quick tune-up.  No problems.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:40 PM

speaking of tuning, my guitar has been acting this way for a while now and i don't know how to fix it. when i tune to concert pitch. open chords and barre chords formed around the E string sound in tune but if i play chords formed around the A string, the B and hi E string are a half step sharp. new strings, intonation doesn't help. i have to tune in between to play, so it's close to sounding in tune. using a chorus helps a lot. answers? questions? warped neck? what the heck is going on?


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:28 AM

I use the tuner all the time, especially (and always) when I play live. I have it in "silent mode" when live (of course) and I can always rely on it when I hit those first few notes of a song in the middle of a set. :P

 

I also use it for intonation but I've been playing over 20 years and also know what I'm doing when setting a guitars intonation. And sure a "Peterson" or "Strobo-matic" strobe tuner offers more precision... if you can afford one of those. And don't forget they need to be calibrated every so often too. But I've found that the center varies a bit in itself and you have to ensure you're centered with no tension on the neck and while not touching the bridge.

 

To address "Guru"... yep it's possible that your neck needs adjustment via the truss rod. I'm sure there are YouTube videos on how to check your neck and adjust it if needed. The trick is to turn the truss rod a little at a time... that is an 1/8 to a 1/4 turn at a time... then let the guitar sit for a bit to let the neck catchup 100% to the torque just applied to it.

 

Another possibility is that your guitar needs a fret job (replacment of the frets). I have a guitar that is 1/2 unplayable cuz it needs one. Typically many of us learn the blues/rock stuff that heavily favors the key of "A" in the 5 the fret neck area and the key of "E" which favors the 12th fret area of the neck.

 

Bending strings and vibrato are the main culprits that wear down the frets. And fret jobs are not cheap... often costing $300 to $600 depending on the type of guitar. Take it to a registered luthier not some hack. A bound neck (ala Gibson Les Paul) is going to cost on the high end cuz the neck binding also needs to be redone.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:07 AM

yes


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:39 AM

To address "Guru"... yep it's possible that your neck needs adjustment via the truss rod. I'm sure there are YouTube videos on how to check your neck and adjust it if needed. The trick is to turn the truss rod a little at a time... that is an 1/8 to a 1/4 turn at a time... then let the guitar sit for a bit to let the neck catchup 100% to the torque just applied to it.

 

Another possibility is that your guitar needs a fret job (replacment of the frets). I have a guitar that is 1/2 unplayable cuz it needs one. Typically many of us learn the blues/rock stuff that heavily favors the key of "A" in the 5 the fret neck area and the key of "E" which favors the 12th fret area of the neck.

 

Bending strings and vibrato are the main culprits that wear down the frets. And fret jobs are not cheap... often costing $300 to $600 depending on the type of guitar. Take it to a registered luthier not some hack. A bound neck (ala Gibson Les Paul) is going to cost on the high end cuz the neck binding also needs to be redone

 

 

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:05 AM

The tuner threads always give me a chuckle....Especially the posts where folks claim the HD tuner is not precise enough...If that was really the case, then the person claiming that really does not need a tuner anyway...just get a fork and be done with it already...

 

If you are tired of fighting the intonation imperfections that all electric guitars with conventional necks suffer from, get one of these crazy necks and put your tuning troubles to bed...

 

http://www.truetemperament.com


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#16 NinoScholz

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:08 AM

I use it on my HD Pro, works fine. I use the shortboard tuner for quick tuning checks, and when i want more precision i just go over to my rack and use the actual POD HD Pro unit, which is very accurate and easy to use.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:27 AM

The tuner threads always give me a chuckle....Especially the posts where folks claim the HD tuner is not precise enough...If that was really the case, then the person claiming that really does not need a tuner anyway...just get a fork and be done with it already...

 

If you are tired of fighting the intonation imperfections that all electric guitars with conventional necks suffer from, get one of these crazy necks and put your tuning troubles to bed...

 

http://www.truetemperament.com

 

 

I have Earvana nuts fitted, I'm just a bit of a tuning perfectionist. However once intonation is set up I am more than happy to use the HD's tuner.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 10:36 AM

Me too - Earvana nut. I had my intonation set up professionally with the nut installation, and since then I use the HD500 tuner.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 10:39 AM

I just have normal human being nuts... :D


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 05:12 PM

I haven't had any issues with the tuner live. I just got my guitars back with new nuts and are intonated fine, but my luthier didn't use my HD to do it.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 06:48 AM

I haven't had any issues with the tuner live. I just got my guitars back with new nuts and are intonated fine, but my luthier didn't use my HD to do it.

Did you check your Luthier's work with the Line 6 tuner? Did it match up?


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 06:55 AM

Did you check your Luthier's work with the Line 6 tuner? Did it match up?

I have done that. It matches up very well. I have since used the HD500 tuner to make minor adjustments to intonation, with good results. Probably not exact if you put a strobe on it, but close enough for me not to notice anything badly out of tune up and down the neck.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:10 AM

I have done that. It matches up very well. I have since used the HD500 tuner to make minor adjustments to intonation, with good results. Probably not exact if you put a strobe on it, but close enough for me not to notice anything badly out of tune up and down the neck.

Haven't taken any of my guitars to a Luthier and I make all the necessary adjustments myself. I just make sure that all of the notes ("all") are as close as possible using the HD500, X3Pro, and Spider Jam tuners. People around me say it sounds awesome and it sounds great to me. That's all I need to know.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:42 AM

Same here. Just went through a intonation re-adjustment after messing with my spring tension on a JTV-69. The HD500 tuner seemed perfectly adequate to do the job, at least as far as I could hear differences.
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Posted 11 February 2014 - 06:31 AM

It doesn't seems accurate enough for me, I rather use a mobile app, it's easy and accurate for what i need.

But it's just my opinion.

 

Try this: https://itunes.apple...d482745751?mt=8


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 06:49 AM

I use the HD500 tuner all the time. And I have used it for intonation setting.  It seems good enough.

 

Recently though, I have had an issue where it confuses the A and the D string.  I strike the open A and it flashes up D.   I use it with a JTV59 and VDI.  It doesn't do this all the time - but when it does it is very frustrating.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:11 AM

Have had issues with the tuner only working with input one.  I've stood on stage stamping on the HD500 not understanding why the tuner bar won't appear!   When it's worked it seems fine for normal use.  I use a stand alone cheap unit that shows individual cents on a numbered scale for setting intonation. 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:29 AM

I use the tuner on my HD Pro.  I sold my Korg rack tuner and haven't noticed any adverse effects.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:02 AM

Have had issues with the tuner only working with input one.  I've stood on stage stamping on the HD500 not understanding why the tuner bar won't appear!   When it's worked it seems fine for normal use.  I use a stand alone cheap unit that shows individual cents on a numbered scale for setting intonation. 

 

Hmmm...I have one patch on the 500x from which I cannot engage the tuner. Annoying as *&$%, as it's a rhythm tone I use a lot. Hold down the "tap" button, and the tuner screen appears, but registers nothing.  Switch to another patch, and it works fine...wondering if there's something about the input settings that's gumming up the works. Gotta try that later.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:33 AM

I don't intonate often, but when I do, I prefer Peterson.  Stay thirsty my friends....

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 12:45 PM

I use my Peterson Tuner too for Intonation.  More precise than the one in my HD500x.  I also have the Peterson App for my Iphone.  It's not quite as  good as the real thing but it's close. 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 12:53 PM

that app is well worth it.

 

I use my Peterson Tuner too for Intonation.  More precise than the one in my HD500x.  I also have the Peterson App for my Iphone.  It's not quite as  good as the real thing but it's close. 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:33 PM

Hmmm...I have one patch on the 500x from which I cannot engage the tuner. Annoying as *&$%, as it's a rhythm tone I use a lot. Hold down the "tap" button, and the tuner screen appears, but registers nothing.  Switch to another patch, and it works fine...wondering if there's something about the input settings that's gumming up the works. Gotta try that later.

Same problem I had.  Check out the input allocation on that patch.  Tuner only works on input 1 - so if you have, say, a Variax connected but "inputs" are specified as Input 1= Guitar, Input 2=Variax, then - even if only the Variax is actually connected it won't show up or register in the tuner.  It's totally frustrating if you regularly use both a guitar and a Variax with the HD500. Crazy arrangement!


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 04:50 PM

I don't use the tuner in the Pod - I tried it and it doesn't fine tune enough for me.

I still use a strobe tuner - quicker and more accurate.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 05:40 PM

I have it or a el cheapo Korg tuner.

True the scale is a little slight on HD but it is fine. I can do intonation with it or the Korg.

A strobe tuner would be a luxury for me but they are the best,especially for setups.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 01:29 PM

I use the tuner in my tc helicon harmony gxt since I need the guitar in tune with that for our shows. It's very accurate and precise enough.

I have compared the two, actually, to see how close they were. They are almost exactly the same. I think I've seen the Pod read slightly flat on a couple occasions compared to the tc helicon pedal, but it's negligible.
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Posted 12 February 2014 - 07:12 PM

One hint, turn your tone knob all the way down.  I've found that it helps the tuner "focus" so to speak.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 07:40 PM

Yep.  Compared to my BOSS TU3 Chromatic Tuner, it seems just as accurate when using it to intonate.  


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:28 AM

I get more accurate results with a free vst called 'c tuner', but I use the one in the pod for convenience when I'm messing around. But if I'm going to record, or adjust intonation, its c tuner.
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:30 AM

One hint, turn your tone knob all the way down. I've found that it helps the tuner "focus" so to speak.


Lightly damping/muting the other strings can also help.
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