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#21 TheRealZap

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 07:28 AM

google a picture of the front of the unit...

you'll see that effects are limited to specific slots...

gor example... you can't run a compressor and a screamer at the same time since they both exists on the FX1 slot.

this also means you cant stack drives... run multiple delays etc....

also obvious things such as dual tones are not possible...


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#22 Stratman82

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:14 AM

One more quick question regarding that particular statement...

 

I'm looking through the comparison between the different HD models (300, 400 and 500), and aside from things like a smaller looper or less space for user presets... what ARE the limitations you're talking about when comparing the 300 to the 500 model?

 

I've owned a podHD300 and recently upgraded to the HD500x. Yes amp models are the same. But theres a huge difference in functionality and useability, in particular being able to  use multiple effects that are within the same category. For instance, on the HD300 you are not able to use a distortion pedal like a Screamer along with a boost pedal or fuzz face within the same patch. You could have all 3 together in an HD500 patch.

 

Also, the interface both on the unit itself and via HD Edit software is more streamlined on the HD500, including the ability to manage setlists.

 

There are far more patches available on customtone for the HD500 as well.

 

I'd definately advise choosing the HD500 even if you aren't going to use all its connectivity options on the back panel.


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#23 Shaamaan

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 08:33 AM

Thanks everyone for the replies!

 

I'll try to save up some money and get the HD 500 then. Sadly, the local prices for used HD 500s aren't (as someone mentioned) around $300... they're around $500.  :(

 

Thankfully, a friend from the US will come visit us, and after sending him the dimensions and weight of the HD 500 he said he could bring it over, so I might just buy if from the US. ^_^

 

Before I do, however... one last question:

Given that this is a digital device, am I right to assume that a used HD 500 on sale should work like a brand new unit and any kind of wear and tear can only be physical? (Assuming it hasn't been smashed to pieces of course and the electronics are intact...)


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 08:43 AM

 Before I do, however... one last question:
Given that this is a digital device, am I right to assume that a used HD 500 on sale should work like a brand new unit and any kind of wear and tear can only be physical? (Assuming it hasn't been smashed to pieces of course and the electronics are intact...)


I think that's safe to assume. I guess you never really know how used and abused 2nd hand stuff is unless you know the seller.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 08:49 AM

I think that's safe to assume. I guess you never really know how used and abused 2nd hand stuff is unless you know the seller.

 

Very true. However, to give a context as to why I asked that question... I'd never buy a guitar without actually grabbing it and trying it out (and this is exactly what I did before I bought my JTV - heck, I drove quite a distance given the quality of Polish roads to meet the seller ^_^ ). Given that there's no possible way for me to actually try out a used POD bought from the US (I can, at best, ask the seller for pictures to assess if the unit is physically damaged) I want to make sure that such a purchase is at all justifiable. ;)

 

I apologise if I may seem a bit paranoid or something - as I stated, such a purchase isn't easy for me, thus I want to be as sure as I can before I commit to this.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:01 AM

I think in your situation I'd prefer to buy new if I could afford it.

IMO the problems you could encounter with an international 2nd hand purchase from eBay or similar just aren't worth it unless the used price is exceptionally good. Buying cheaper used gear could prove to be false economy.

I bought a used Gibson Les Paul Studio (unseen) on eBay recently as the price was right. I got lucky and it is in good condition and a nice, light example of the model. It could have gone pear shaped though and I'm not sure I'd be keen to try my luck again.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:45 AM

keep in mind... if you buy new from the USA the warranty is only good in the USA....  (change USA for whatever country... same concept)

so essentially you'd have no warranty... making it worth the risk to get used... IMO.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:59 AM

Poland isn't the 3rd world!!

Clearly if buying new he should source domestically and I'm sure there are plenty of sources (web based if not in store) where he could make a purchase with warranty cover.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:41 AM

Well, I wouldn't be paying for shipping thanks to a friend who could bring it over. And this is why I asked if a digital device such as a POD HD can have problems similar to guitars where personally inspecting the instrument can be crucial.

 

The thing is the price most certainly is better. A used POD HD 500 is for sale on Amazon.com for ~$350 (by someone who appears to be a trusted seller). In Poland, the cheapest used POD HD 500 is for ~$500 and I saw a new one for sale in an online store going for ~$520.

What was completely mind-boggling was what I saw on Amazon.de. In Germany the POD HD 500 is for sale for 672 EURO (over $900!) while a POD HD 500X is for sale for 499 EURO (WHAT... THE...?!?)... But I think it's just the German Amazon site which has some screwed up prices. A quick Google search reveals that a new POD 500 is going for ~$520 as well.

 

Of course, if possible, I'd rather pay $350 than $500. ;) But of course warranty could be an issue... :unsure:


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:11 AM

I have bought lots of Musical gear second hand off USA eBay and have never had a problem. Your warranty only lasts 1 year anyway. I would definitely seriously consider going second hand in your situation. I would get my friend to do a quick test of it befrore he returns to Poland. At least turn it on.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:15 PM

If you're on a budget I'd try to get one from ebay, they run around 300, so you save about 200 dollars.

It's what I'm probably gonna do, because I really want a HD500 for Variax use and as a new audio interface. I thought I'd get some killer modeling while I'm at it, since I already have POD Farm and that's the same modeling as an older model POD.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:17 PM

I almost forgot...

 

Will a US-bought POD 500 work with European (220V) power sockets?


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 03:12 AM

yes, the power supply is universal and only the plug needs adapted.

I almost forgot...

 

Will a US-bought POD 500 work with European (220V) power sockets?


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 01:21 AM

Have a look at Thomann from Germany or other big European suppliers.  I bought an "open box" B Stock HD500 fully guaranteed with an option to return if I didn't like it for under £300 sterling a couple of months ago.  I'm sure there are still deals around from firms getting rid of old HD500 stocks to make way for 500X.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 03:59 AM

So HD500x is pretty much a replacement model to give people more headroom with the functionality of the 500? I like that, but it's out of my price range for sure. I also don't like how some were complaining that you can't do stuff that you could on the regular 500 with the Variax.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:36 AM

basically they've decided not to add the ability to interface with the older original variax workbench software to the 500x.

to my knowledge this is the only difference. the 500x will be able to interface with variax workbench HD when that is pod ready.

 

So HD500x is pretty much a replacement model to give people more headroom with the functionality of the 500? I like that, but it's out of my price range for sure. I also don't like how some were complaining that you can't do stuff that you could on the regular 500 with the Variax.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 03:43 PM

basically they've decided not to add the ability to interface with the older original variax workbench software to the 500x.

to my knowledge this is the only difference. the 500x will be able to interface with variax workbench HD when that is pod ready.

 

Lame. (Sorry for a bit off topic) Definitely getting a regular 500 then. It's too much anyways. I've seen some plain 500's run for 300 on ebay.

I've been hearing about some DSP limit stuff which is kind of disappointing, but I mostly use VST plugins anyway. I could probably use those together with the HD500.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 03:56 PM

The DSP limit really isn't that bad on the 500...

only ever had the limit turn up when using dual tones for the most part....

or when i otherwise am just trying to see what i can get away with...

if you're looking used the 500's will be far more plentiful and priced better anyway...

 

Lame. (Sorry for a bit off topic) Definitely getting a regular 500 then. It's too much anyways. I've seen some plain 500's run for 300 on ebay.

I've been hearing about some DSP limit stuff which is kind of disappointing, but I mostly use VST plugins anyway. I could probably use those together with the HD500.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 05:28 PM

The DSP limit really isn't that bad on the 500...

only ever had the limit turn up when using dual tones for the most part....

or when i otherwise am just trying to see what i can get away with...

if you're looking used the 500's will be far more plentiful and priced better anyway...

 

I don't usually use dual tones anyways. More of a 1 amp at a time guy. It can make some killer tones sometimes to blend 2 amps, but I prefer the tone to be consistent. 

Thanks for the info. I'm personally definitely getting a HD500 over an X3. I prefer to get nice modeling and variax features, instead of getting a hardware version of something I already have that I don't really use (Pod Farm)


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 05:40 PM

its nice for recording to have the software/hardware version that matches... but yeah i'd go 500 as well (you could also go pro...)


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