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#1 mark_shaw

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 08:57 AM

I was playing around with the Soldano amp models and notice there are also 'pre' versions of each model.  Can someone explain the difference?  The 'pre' versions sounded much 'thinner', but not sure why.

 

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#2 BigChas52

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:11 AM

With the "pre" models, there is no modeling of the power amp, cab, or mic.  It's simply the pre-amp and effects.  They are meant to be used with your own amp and cab.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:11 AM

I was playing around with the Soldano amp models and notice there are also 'pre' versions of each model. Can someone explain the difference? The 'pre' versions sounded much 'thinner', but not sure why.

Thanks.


Pre versions are only preamp models. They don't include the power amp modeling. That is why some models seem weaker or thinner in pre.
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#4 mark_shaw

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 10:24 AM

Thanks all for the responses!


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:10 PM

With the "pre" models, there is no modeling of the power amp, cab, or mic.  It's simply the pre-amp and effects.  They are meant to be used with your own amp and cab.

 
But in the POD HD Edit it shows the speaker and mic settings as well for the 'pre'...so should we consider that even if it shows up, they do not respond when the 'pre' models are selected:unsure:


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 04:51 AM

Oops.  My mistake.  The cab & mic modeling is there, but no power-amp section.  That said, the pre models tend to be "thin" because they are primarily meant to be used with a guitar amp.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 07:46 AM

normally every amp internally is composed by a pre-amp and a power-amp tied together ..
if you want to connect the pod to a real external power amp, to
not have 2 power amps (the emulated and the real one) working together in a row, you should theoretically use just the pre-amp version of the amp you want, and also you should not use any cab..

 

all of this theoretically, then you can experiment freely any combination without problems


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#8 MartinDorr

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:00 AM

To illustrate how true Hurghanico's 'theoretical' reference is, it is worth knowing that Line 6 themselves is using Cab sims as part of the modelled preamp block in their DT amps (despite that the DT's obviously have a real Cab).

Your milage truly varies and you should pick what you like best by the ultimate measure (what you hear with your equipment).


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#9 gchaddock1972

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:01 AM

If the over all volume is low you can go to the mixer and push the left and right fader to 100%.


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