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#1 croSSed

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 07:40 PM

I need videos.  I need COMPLETE videos that cover everything in the user start guide, Advanced Guide and more.  This thing is WAY over my head.  I'm used to plugging into a nice tube amp with a handful of stompbox effects, turning it on, and after a few minutes of dialing in, I have a great tone.  This thing... I feel like the user needs a degree in the operation of the thing just to make it work.  The manuals are just too much.  I don't learn things well by reading "how to", but give me a video demo and I can make it work.  I've spent well over an hour tonight trying to figure out how to use this thing, and I haven't made any ground.  Additionally, I don't find it enjoyable to be trying to "figure it out".  I want to PLAY with KILLER TONE.  The whole learning curve thing is not fun.  HELP!!!!!!  BTW, I searched YouTube vids and that was just frustrating.  None of the videos I viewed told me what I wanted to know.


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#2 toneman2121

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 07:52 PM

http://line6.com/sup.../_/effects/pod/

 

there are some video tutorials here


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 08:04 PM

sell it and move on...


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 08:07 PM

Thanks, but I don't find anything on this page that tells me what I'm after.  This video starts GREAT:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=EkbOim_Gyuw

 

Starts as something exactly what I'm looking for, but where's the rest of it?  I can't find the next video in this series!

:angry:

 

I'm this close to selling this POS and buying a GOOD amp!  Why did I sell the one I had to get this? WHY??


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#5 ext1jdh

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 03:11 AM

If you're this frustrated by technology then sell it and get an amp. You'll be stuck with a single tone, but it sounds like that's all you're capable of anyway.

The HD500 is not a POS because you can't figure it out. Thousands of others have no problem understanding it.
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#6 XCrossroadsX2000

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 03:49 AM

As otherss have said the HD500 is an outstanding device. Unfortunately I do agree that programming through the device is not user friendly. I do not modify settings on the POD but use the HD Edit softtware. You can also download tones from custom tone and tweak them rather than building from scratch.

 

Use the Line 6 monkey to download the drivers and try watching this vIdeo.

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3IKbUbisZJE

 

Good Luck


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#7 joel_brown

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 06:01 AM

Connect your PODHD to your PC and use the HD Edit software.  It makes it easier to work with.  Then it's kind'a like connecting stomp pedals to an amp, except your doing it on your computer screen.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 11:29 PM

If you're this frustrated by technology then sell it and get an amp. You'll be stuck with a single tone, but it sounds like that's all you're capable of anyway.
The HD500 is not a POS because you can't figure it out. Thousands of others have no problem understanding it.


Amen to that...

It's not THAT hard to work out. I'm first and foremost a drummer and I've nutted mine out easy enough.
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Posted 18 November 2013 - 01:05 AM

Someone here said once and it is most apt, "if someone just gave you 30 amps and 99 FX to try out you'd get into a spin." Something like that.

If you go by the presets you will be disapointed.

 

The thing to do is start with a "new tone". a blank slate. try out the different amp models. The pre amp models follow when you scroll down enough.

 

Pick an Amp, tweak it to your liking. Try different pickups turn your guitar volume down a bit and back up. Add an effect that sounds okay, tweak it a bit. tweak your guitar volume. Add another and tweak etc. Save your patch and label it.

 

go to another new tone and pick an Amp, ad infinitum.


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#10 smrybacki

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 07:35 AM

sell it and move on...

 

This ^


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 07:46 AM

I'll buy it off you for $50 if you hate it that much


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 08:13 AM

Here is some advice:

1.  DO NOT try to explore the HD 500 via it's interface.  You'll get quickly lost and frustrated.  I do suggest that you learn it later, but for starters connect your HD500 to your PC and use HD500 Edit.

 

2.  Start with 3 of the separate sections in the Edit program: AMPS - FX - Controllers

 

3.  I would start in the AMPS section, and pick an amp to start with.  You might start by picking something you're familiar with in the physical amp world.  Do not pick one of the "pre" models until you have a grip on what you're doing.  Use the "nrm" models for now.  DO feel free to twist the treble, bass, and middle knobs on the HD500 if that makes it easier to dial in your tone.  Treat this part like an actual amp.  For now, do not mess with the Amp Parameters or Cab Parameters sections.

 

4. Once you have a decent sounding AMP, go to the FX section.  From here, imagine how you would place stomps and effect in a physical environment.  It's really not that different.  You'll have lots of toys to choose from.  Again, start with stomps and effects that you are familiar with in the physical world.  You might want to make sure you assign a volume pedal in there as well. - Notice the little purple blocks.  You can drag them before, or after the amp section to decide if you want the effect before or after the amp.  For example, I like GATE and distortions before, and delays and reverb after.  I like volume pedals before the amp on overdriven patches, and after the amp on clean patches.  You can also set up dual amping by dragging the amp block around until the single amp path turns into two paths, but I wouldn't do this for now.

 

5.  In the CONTROLLERS section, think about the FX you've chosen and which ones you would like assigned to foot switches.  In the physical world, you might leave something like GATE or mild compression on all the time, so you don't necessarily need to assign them to foot switches.  I usually assign distortions, delays, chorus, and one additional (depending on the patch) to the foot switches.  Remember the volume pedal?  Make sure you assign it to the expression pedal here :)

 

6.  You can save your patch to the HD500 by using the "SEND - Selected" option in the upper left corner of the Edit interface.

 

Once you have this part down, it shouldn't be difficult to get a grip on the MIXER section and some of the output options.

 

Try not to get frustrated.  It's a learning experience, and can be quite fun.  Enjoy :)


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#13 DeanDinosaur

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 11:03 AM

What you must learn before you learn anything:

 

1-How to setup the POD "options" based on what you'r using for amplification. For amp, Power amp. Studio speaker or whatever else

Not setting this correctly, your pod will never sound right.


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#14 croSSed

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 08:48 PM

@BigChas52: Best reply by far to my quandary.  Thank you for that!  I've already downloaded Line 6 Monkey and will connect my HD 500 to my computer and start editing that way.  Thanks also to all of you who posted something HELPFUL.  To the "just give up, sell it," naysayers, well...Unfortunately, this site only allows one down vote per day.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 08:58 PM

You might want to consider an HD300. It has the same sounds, and is set up much more like a plug-and-play device. It was intended for people who didn't want to deal with the freedom/complexity of the HD500.
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#16 ext1jdh

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:36 PM

To the "just give up, sell it," naysayers, well...Unfortunately, this site only allows one down vote per day.


Replacing it with a system that you're far more comfortable with is helpful commentary. Just because the advice you receive is not the advice you want does not make it bad advice.
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#17 smrybacki

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:09 AM

@BigChas52: Best reply by far to my quandary.  Thank you for that!  I've already downloaded Line 6 Monkey and will connect my HD 500 to my computer and start editing that way.  Thanks also to all of you who posted something HELPFUL.  To the "just give up, sell it," naysayers, well...Unfortunately, this site only allows one down vote per day.

 

So let's see, you buy Line6's flagship digital processor, then decide it is too difficult for you. 

 

  -  "Way over my head."

  -  "User needs a degree in this thing"

  - "The whole learning curve thing is not fun."

These are your words sir, and since playing guitar is generally a voluntary activity, I suggested you give up, sell it and go back to what you already know and like.  It was hardly a snarky comment by me or anyone else as far as I can see.

I program computers for a living, and I know that the digital realm isn't for everyone.  There IS a learning curve.  And I'd add here that once you have the basics down of how to select amp(s), effects, speaker cabinets and so on down -- the REAL learning curve will begin where you get to figure out how to make it all work together in a way that YOU like.  I can give you an extensive read on the POD HD series that was suggested to me.  beware, it is long and detailed, but it WILL give you that secondary level of knowledge that you'll be wanting soon enough:

http://foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/

Just because you are frustrated with the experience doesn't mean you can come along and slam people over it.  This forum is VERY helpful as forums go from my brief experience.  Try taking your approach down several notches and ask for specifics. 

 

One other place I can point you is something I found just this morning, which is a walk through on creating Andy Summers type sounds on the HD.  Doesn't matter if you like The Police or Andy really, but it will show you how to achieve a specific goal:

 


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#18 Charlie_Watt

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:25 AM

I program for a living but I find the interface on pods hard to use because I don't use it every day.  I find the computer based Edit programs solve that problem and make it easy to see what you are doing.  I do most of my editing on my X3 with Gearbox.  I am about to buy the 500X to upgrade to HD for use with my JTV69s.


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#19 medbad5150

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:35 AM

ha ha..not laughing at ya mate, cos it is complicated to start, thing to remember is that you can never make a serious mistake, there is always factory prest and this superb forum.....patronising intended!


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:39 AM

I am always willing to help those that I can on this forum.  However, after reading your post I was more than a little ticked off.  You started out with how you are used to "nice tube amps" and your pedals and everything is great but you spent a whole hour with the POD and can't get it to work perfectly.  Now you want us to drop everything and hold your hands getting started.  Guess what? We all spent a lot of time reading, researching and playing with our gear to figure our how to make it work.  It didn't come with a tone Genie attached.  Hence, my comment to sell it and move on.  If you are willing to put in the time we are willing to help.  If not, feel free to keep using those nice tube amps and pedals.

 

Stick around, chill out, have fun and play... it gets better... ;)


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