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I want to get a laptop for nothing but pod hd500x edit. I do everything else on Android now. I'm a pro touring musician and can't be dealing with flash crashes, expression pedal recalibration etc. 10 minutes before a show. I'm assuming some type of Windows machine (after my experience with hd500x and osx snow leopard lol).. I would like a 13 or under laptop. Any suggestions of models, necessary specs, and versions of OS greatly appreciated! It has ONE JOB lol.

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Over OS X (any version) the POD HD Edit crashes if you use the expresion pedal (onboard or external) for a while.

 

When this happens, you cant just reopen the app again unless you turn off the unit completely (otherwise it shows an error message and doesn´t load anything from the POD).

 

This is being a big pain in the arse for me, becouse I have to turn off Logic Audio, my studio monitors, my audio interface, the POD itself, then reconnect the whole chain, just to load HD Edit again.

 

This is happening from the very begining, no matter what OS X version or POD firmware, it´s definitely a software bug that they have not solved yet. (and something about which I have very little hope that they do at this point)

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Over OS X (any version) the POD HD Edit crashes if you use the expresion pedal (onboard or external) for a while.

 

When this happens, you cant just reopen the app again unless you turn off the unit completely (otherwise it shows an error message and doesn´t load anything from the POD).

 

This is being a big pain in the arse for me, becouse I have to turn off Logic Audio, my studio monitors, my audio interface, the POD itself, then reconnect the whole chain, just to load HD Edit again.

 

This is happening from the very begining, no matter what OS X version or POD firmware, it´s definitely a software bug that they have not solved yet. (and something about which I have very little hope that they do at this point)

 

Really? So this a known documented bug with OSX/HD Edit, not something particular to your machine? I'm planning on getting another expression pedal for my HD500X, so I will need to get that sorted out. You have "very little hope" that this will get fixed - why is that? How long has this "bug" been known about? Anyone ever turn in a support ticket for this?

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Really? So this a known documented bug with OSX/HD Edit, not something particular to your machine? I'm planning on getting another expression pedal for my HD500X, so I will need to get that sorted out. You have "very little hope" that this will get fixed - why is that? How long has this "bug" been known about? Anyone ever turn in a support ticket for this?

 

I have 3 different mac computers and a IT degree, so I´m pretty sure isn´t related to any of my machines. I have so little hope that this will get fixed because has been a long time, and we are far more closer than away from the time in what Line 6 replaces the current series with a new series of products (yes, including X models, which are essentially the same).

 

This bug has always happened, from the very begining as a said before, so it necessarily has to be a well known bug that has never been solved. I guess for many people this may not be too serious, but in a home studio environment represents a major drawback, unless you turn off the damn HD EDIT before you use any of the expression pedals to prevent crashes. This is not happening on the precise spot you start to use the expression pedals, you can use it for a while before it crashes (maybe a few minutes) but it will crash, for sure.

 

You can test all this by yourself easily, using the onboard expresion pedal. Just load any Wah and play for 5-15 minutes while HD EDIT is running. I will post some screenshots here.

 

Where I can get a support ticket, by the way? Is this the way to report a bug?

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Well... if you don't use an expression pedal with edit, or even understand why anyone would, obviously you've never experienced this, but that does not mean it does not happening, doesn´t it?.

 

Do not misunderstand me, I do not mean to be grumpy, but that has been an answer somewhat out of this world :wacko:, except for the link to the support ticket, something that, on the other handI appreciate.

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Here are the screenshots I've done.

 

This time HD Edit crashed after 12 minutes using the onboard pedal assigned to "pan" (no matter what, isn´t related to anything specific):

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If you try to reopen HD Edit, then:

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At this point, you have to restart the POD HD (that means turn off sequencer, audio monitors, audio interface, pod, etc).

 

Although for some can be an amazing thing, I really need to have the editor running at all times. In fact, I never use the pod without the editor, because it is always connected to my audio interface via S/PDIF, I sit in front the computer to play, and do not even use the unit itself to change presets, but the editor. In short, I want to have the editor always running. Is it too much to ask that the editor does not crash like it does?

I have 3 variaxes (700, 705 bass and JTV-89), before I had a Bass Pod XT live and Pod X3 Live, and probably I´ll buy the next multieffects unit from Line 6, so I think I'm not suspected of being a hater or anything related. What happens here are proven facts: POD HD editor crashes when using any expression pedal for a while.

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Didn't mean anything by it... other than i don't have edit open when using the pedal.. and have not experienced the issue...

i suspect that many others are like me as well...

but by all means i encourage you to get the ticket and get them to resolve the issue.

for me this issue is a non-issue... for you it's a huge issue... trust me i get it.. just adding my scenario to the mix so that others can decide if this would be an issue for them...

no offense intended or implied....

 

Well... if you don't use an expression pedal with edit, or even understand why anyone would, obviously you've never experienced this, but that does not mean it does not happening, doesn´t it?.

 

Do not misunderstand me, I do not mean to be grumpy, but that has been an answer somewhat out of this world :wacko:, except for the link to the support ticket, something that, on the other hand, I appreciate.

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   I actually have had my iMac crash several times lately. And I do use HD edit & the hardware simultaneously - only because I am adjusting settings and then trying them before I commit to saving the patch in it's present state, in case I want to "undo" my changes (re-load from hardware to HD Edit), seeing as how there is no undo function in the software. This could explain a lot - as I said, I have had numerous crashes recently - always while I am doing something with HD Edit & the pod, but I really hadn't put the two together for sure until reading this post. I was beginning to think it was the precursor to imminent hardware failure on my iMac.

 

   In a somewhat related post here, other users (and I) have found that some screwy things happen when you make changes in HD edit on a patch, and then use the HD500 hardware switches before doing a save to the hardware. I thought the effects of that were limited to making the patch on the hardware unstable, & not accurately reflect the settings current in HD Edit. Looks like it can also take down your computer if you don't do a save to hardware before operating the HD500 directly.

 

   I'm going to have to change the way I experiment with and create patches. I'll have to have one saved version in one preset slot & copy it to the next slot to make experimental changes, and send it to the HD500 before I try the changes. That way, if it becomes too complex to "Undo" the changes, I can get the previous version back. I'm going to have to be careful with this so I don't end up screwing up my Mac.

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   I actually have had my iMac crash several times lately. And I do use HD edit & the hardware simultaneously - only because I am adjusting settings and then trying them before I commit to saving the patch in it's present state, in case I want to "undo" my changes (re-load from hardware to HD Edit), seeing as how there is no undo function in the software. This could explain a lot - as I said, I have had numerous crashes recently - always while I am doing something with HD Edit & the pod, but I really hadn't put the two together for sure until reading this post. I was beginning to think it was the precursor to imminent hardware failure on my iMac.

 

   In a somewhat related post here, other users (and I) have found that some screwy things happen when you make changes in HD edit on a patch, and then use the HD500 hardware switches before doing a save to the hardware. I thought the effects of that were limited to making the patch on the hardware unstable, & not accurately reflect the settings current in HD Edit. Looks like it can also take down your computer if you don't do a save to hardware before operating the HD500 directly.

 

   I'm going to have to change the way I experiment with and create patches. I'll have to have one saved version in one preset slot & copy it to the next slot to make experimental changes, and send it to the HD500 before I try the changes. That way, if it becomes too complex to "Undo" the changes, I can get the previous version back. I'm going to have to be careful with this so I don't end up screwing up my Mac.

 

Many people are experimenting this using OSX, for sure: http://line6.com/support/topic/2670-pod-hd-tone-edit-keeps-crashing-with-macbook-pro/

 

If you do not touch any expression pedal the editor is completely stable. I have been using it for years and never experienced a crash in any other situation except if we including that precise fact in the equation, so, from my point of view this is a problem that is already completely isolated, it is very easy to replicate by the development team, and my support ticket has already been sent. I really wish they are able to fix this annoying bug for the sake of us all.

I'll let you know what they tell me.

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   Just an update on my personal struggles with OSX & HD Edit: I had my iMac crash several more times recently, all while trying to observe caution about touching the pedal while editing in HD Edit.  I plugged in the HD500X power cord and went to fire up HD Edit, but it bombed out with an error message saying to re-start the HD500, HD Edit, or both. I did that several times, closing & re-opening first one, then the other, then both, all to no avail. I also tried unplugging the USB cable, (which I normally leave connected all the time). Twice while doing all of this to get HD Edit to work, my iMac re-booted itself with no warning. Very strange!... So I decided to reload the HD500 drivers & flash memory. I started up the monkey, and in the update window, the flash memory showed up as "Unrecognized". Very Very strange!... It was up to date before that - WTF?? :angry:

 

   I started by reloading the flash memory: No change. :wacko:

   I then reloaded the audio drivers: No change. :wacko:

   I then reloaded the USB Driver: Bingo! :D  Now everything works again. Flash memory shows up as updated like it was before. HD Edit loads normally and (so far) is working without issue. No unauthorized reboots in OSX (so far). Looks like the USB firmware somehow got corrupted. How did it get to be corrupted? Why? Corrupted by what? All good questions that I have no answers to. All I know, and care about at this point is that it seems to be working properly (so far). The USB transmission line is the conduit for all communication between the HD500X & HD Edit, so it makes sense that if there are glitches in communication, the USB connection/Driver might be a source of the issue (emphasis on the word "might").

 

   If you are having any similar issues, you might want to try reloading the "USB Firmware" in Line 6 Monkey. It might clear up some of your issues. I'm not saying the advice about not modifying controls on the HD500X and HD Edit at the same time is not valid. I still think that is good advice, and not following it can lead to instability and having both "out of sync" where weird things can happen. Maybe doing so can corrupt the USB firmware??

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