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Poll: Would you like a new variax bass? (39 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you like a new variax bass?

  1. Yes (34 votes [87.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 87.18%

  2. No (5 votes [12.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.82%

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#1 Price010

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:24 AM

Am a session musician and although I play lots of instruments I play bass most of the time, I have one of the new James Tyler variax guitars and I must say its a vast improvement and is one of my must have guitars I take it everywhere.

I personally would love you to do a new version of the variax bass to have one in my arsenal would make my life a lot more easy,

Would love to hear all of your thoughts on the idea and what it must have for example sounds and the desine of the bass ?
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#2 ur2funky

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:32 AM

I like the sounds it has, if it could just take the leap forward like the JTV did.

 

And 24 frets would be nice.


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#3 Ed_Saxman

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:35 AM

As a proud 705 Variax Bass owner, absolutely yes, sir!. :lol:

 

This time I would prefer a modern look, maybe somewhat similar to the Ibanez SR series, with thin neck, lighter body and preferably in amber finish.  :wub: 


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#4 Price010

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:43 AM

I own a 705 myself and I love it but it's not quite there for me but if they just took that little step forward it would be amazing

Am a big fan of jazz basses and also Warwick star basses I would love to see a wider range of basses and a nice thin neck and it must have 24 frets and I know it's a big thing to ask but try and keep it light
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Posted 23 November 2013 - 11:21 AM

Voted yes of course! although i'm not thinking its likely... surely probably a new acoustic or even a lefty would jump in front of it in line...

but of course would be just as happy to be wrong about that....


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:16 AM

Proud owner of a 700 with a lowdown 175

 

I'd buy a new bass to have alt tuning and model change via hd500 but I won't pay 1500$ for thoses 2 features cause that bass already rock.

 

 

maybe they can sell to me a transplant kit instead ;)


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 02:23 PM

Proud owner of a 700 with a lowdown 175

 

I'd buy a new bass to have alt tuning and model change via hd500 but I won't pay 1500$ for thoses 2 features cause that bass already rock.

 

 

maybe they can sell to me a transplant kit instead ;)

 

I don't know if you remember but the 700 was supposed to have Workbench support but they dropped it without a word. It just never happened. This has always been a thorn in my side.  I should just let it go but whatever.  I don't think a new Variax bass will be coming.  Like I said they never gave the old one workbench support and essentially dumped it since there was no interest.  They ended it by giving away a Bass Pod XT (I'm assuming no one was buying these either) with the Variax bass.  To me it was obvious they were just clearing inventory.  I think bass players are a bit more fickle than guitar players and the bass didn't sell.  Given that experience I doubt they'll go into that area again.  I know some people are interested in a Variax bass.  I was and got one.  But the interest was severly lacking back then and I doubt that has changed.


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#8 Hey_Joe

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 04:22 PM

It 's really too bad that there was not enough interest in the 700/705. I was going to snag one but they disappeared before I finally was able to buy one, just thought they would be around or a next version would be available before I picked one up. I kept hoping Line 6 would get a new generation back in the line up but I think Zap and brue58ski are correct. Plus the IdeaScale only has 40 votes for one. Either people stopped trying to get rid of them on eBay or the people who have them want to keep them (currently only one 705 w/ a BassPOD XT worldwide listed).

 

Given that I had to ship my JTV69K back to Line6 5 times to get the trem and neck problems fixed and had to send my X3L in as a test subject with one of the first USB Dropout issues they couldn't produce in the lab  - I'd willingly take the plunge and be willing to become an un officical Beta Tester/Guinea Pig if I had to to get one (4 or 5 string). Too bad there just isn't enough interest to persuade Line6 to go in that direction. It's funny because many people I've dealt with at Line6 from higher up marketing to support (like line6miller) are bass players.

What a shame.

Just my 2¢


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#9 Trl0126

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:03 PM

I would love a new variax bass, especially with some good acoustic bass options. Ernie Ball has their Game Changer bass which I think does all the electric tones I would need, but having the POD HD integration is nice.
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Posted 07 December 2013 - 01:21 AM

Why can't L6 just model a bass on the JTV line? Love my 59, but WOULD like the ability to duplicate (or even approach) the sound of my Washburn Force 5. Or, maybe, a Fender P5.


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 06:44 AM

you'd be in more total midi turf than modeling i think...

the physics of guitar strings vs bass strings make accurate modeling a stretch.

i've come up with a few "in a pinch" type sounds... but never anything accurate for bass tracking.

 

Why can't L6 just model a bass on the JTV line? Love my 59, but WOULD like the ability to duplicate (or even approach) the sound of my Washburn Force 5. Or, maybe, a Fender P5.


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:44 AM

I voted no. Not to kill the idea but, in order to appeal to a wide audience it would likely be a "fender" based design. I keep a jazz around for gigs where they want to "see" a Fender bass. Otherwise I don't care for Fender/Musicman/G&L and all their bastard children so it would likely not appeal to me. I prefer non-fender neck shapes. I particularly like mid 2000s Warwicks with the baseball bat necks and they feel kindred to my uprights. I find thin necks very fatiguing. 


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#13 activebass

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 07:15 AM

I signed up just so I could vote yes! :)

Do it, Line 6. The Variax bass was before it's time. Technology has advanced, you are wiser now in the bass making ways.

 

I think the people with a lot of gripes about the Variax bass tones, didn't actually own one. Most of the modelers were very accurate. Maybe not 100% but darn close. 

I'd buy an updated 705 with less battery fuss in a heartbeat. 


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#14 dspellman

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 02:28 PM

Yeah, definitely. I'm on the hunt for a 705 at the moment, but I'd appreciate something that was actually supported.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:23 PM

In spite of my previous statement, I will be first in line purchase a Yamaha BB1024V if it becomes a reality. :D


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 08:51 AM

I'm more of a hobbyist musician. I play several instrument, but mostly guitar. I've been looking for a versatile bass for laying down tracks and to just have around my home studio. A kind of all purpose, get it done kid of thing, but not have all my bass tracks sound the same as I do lots of sound experimentation. The Variax bass seems to be perfect for my purpose. I would buy one right now if they were like the James Tyler version guitars with workbench support and modern styling.  


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#17 brue58ski

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 01:36 AM

By the way I love my Variax bass (705) and Bass Pod XT. I was surprised that they had to drop it because the recorded sound is awesome in my opinion,  And I thought the live sound was pretty good too. If you can try one out you should.  But I just think there is some kind of stigma around a bass guitar sim, and to a lesser degree bass amp sims.  I've run across a lot of people with it.


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#18 clay-man

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 06:34 AM

you'd be in more total midi turf than modeling i think...

the physics of guitar strings vs bass strings make accurate modeling a stretch.

i've come up with a few "in a pinch" type sounds... but never anything accurate for bass tracking.

 

Nah man. synthesis/sampling is no fun, it'll limit what you can do with your guitar extremely. 

 

I found a bass patch for my Variax and it sounds pretty nice. Pretty convincing in a mix. The only problem is that the treble is muddy as hell. 

 

I strongly say a new Variax bass though. Would be killer.


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#19 line6bassman

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 09:37 AM

I voted YES!! Own the 705 Love it till death due us part.....


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 01:39 PM

If they EVER do come up with a new bass, please do alternate tunings with it. I don't know how reliable down tuning on the old Variax basses were, but I know that tuning down significantly on a Variax makes it sound bad because lack of tension on the piezos. I'm not sure how much upping the gauge fixes that though. 

 

Has anyone physically tuned their Variax pretty low and got good sounds?


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