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#141 oleus

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 04:37 PM

Well. I got my replacement. I've decided to keep it, but I had to superglue the cap of the modeling knob. It was totally unattached and fell right off.

So I received two jtv's with knob issues. Seems out of the realm of random bad luck.

Everything else is perfect with it - neck is great.
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:03 PM

Just plugged it into my hd500x. Sounds fantastic so far. I'm not sure what fw it has , I'll hook it up to monkey later when my wife is off of the computer. But it works!
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:36 PM

Just saw it had firmware 2.0 btw via the hd500 menus.

So far I love the models and think it's a noticeable step up from the variax 500 I owned. The only acoustic that sounds right is the middle position but that's fine. I tend to like the chime / rickenbacker models but noticed the gibsons sound a lot better than I remember.

Amazingly the guitar seems to have been set up perfectly. It plays great. I like the lighting on the model knob that I had to fix (I'm being really careful with it for now).

I have a lot of learning to do as to what this thing can do with the hd500 that I might not be aware of yet, and I'm looking forward to making my own models via workbench on the custom knobs.

Other than "epic fail part two" with the knob, I'm highly satisfied after 30 minutes of messing around.
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#144 Charlie_Watt

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:55 PM

If you have not already get yourself a good quality VDI cable to use with your HD500.  Glad you like your guitar!  My 69S came with 2.0 on it too and I have not tried anything else.  I really like the acoustic models.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 06:00 PM

If you have not already get yourself a good quality VDI cable to use with your HD500.  Glad you like your guitar!  My 69S came with 2.0 on it too and I have not tried anything else.  I really like the acoustic models.


Could you recommend one ? I thought an Ethernet cable was all that was needed. What is the advantage of a cable upgrade ?
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#146 Charlie_Watt

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 07:04 PM

You want a VDI cable with good end shells on it.  There is a poster here that sells custom cables that folks like.  The one from Line6 is stiff and not good at all.  I got mine from Guitar Cable.com and it is a very well made cable.  They make great braided guitar cables too.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 07:13 PM

I have zero experience with alternate turnings but I am immediately loving the baritone option. I'm shocked how well this thing models alternates.

And my superglue seems to have worked, I have been turning the model knob with a little more "normal" force and it seems fine.

I guess I'll send line 6 a bill for my superglue :-)

This thing paired with the hd500 is amazing - just playing around with the unmodified pod models ( that I know are much maligned ) is giving me insane tones when I fool around with it.

I've been using quality studio monitor headphones (Sennheiser hd 380s) and the stereo imaging is quite impressive on some of the preset tones. At first I was hearing a lot of noise when I switched tone presets but realized I didn't have the variax set as global, when I was switching tones it kept adding the guitar and aux inputs , and even though nothing was feeding those inputs it was adding garbage.

I even messed around with the banjo sound like I used to do with my old 500. Good memories. A great guitar so far.

I'm going to put gs boomers on it soon but the first one I returned had a small tag about the strings it came with and this one didn't - in my anger about the bent knob I forgot what strings it said it came with. Should I go ahead and string it up with boomers ?
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:48 PM

I just got a JTV59. Tobacco. It arrived yesterday. I got to play it tonight.

Freaking. Awesome.

JTV59 > HD500 > DT 25.

Purely sweet tone.. did a simple patch or two with Plexi, wah,;comp, drive, verb and delay.

I have had this HD500 since 2010, and hands down the best its ever sounded. I used the VDI cable.

I am guessing here. But even the mag pickups sounded better. I think the JTV handles the A/D conversion better than the HD500.

Used the DI XLR out from the DT25 for the recording, sounds spot on

Last; but not least- the Epiphone LP case fits it perfectly.
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 06:28 AM

My JTV 69S came with D'Addario EXL 110's.  I like them  and will continue to use them.


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 11:51 AM

Re: strings. That makes sense, I could tell the strings were higher quality than the crud usually shipped with a guitar.

I'm loving the baritone tuning.
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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:17 AM

I'll be making my own comparison as my JTV 69 is supposed to arrive today and I own a very sweet Variax 500.  I bought my 500 new in 2004 and it has been flawless for me.  It has a nice neck, beautiful finish and has never had an issue.  I play it more than all of my other guitars combined.  I'll be doing some extensive comparisons between the 2 for the next few weeks and I'll be sure to come back and post my findings.  I'm no expert but hopefully my opinion will help future readers of this thread.

 

Also, I've owned the 500 for 10 years and didn't know I could overwrite all of the models until reading this thread.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 09:15 AM

I'll be making my own comparison as my JTV 69 is supposed to arrive today and I own a very sweet Variax 500.  I bought my 500 new in 2004 and it has been flawless for me.  It has a nice neck, beautiful finish and has never had an issue.  I play it more than all of my other guitars combined.  I'll be doing some extensive comparisons between the 2 for the next few weeks and I'll be sure to come back and post my findings.  I'm no expert but hopefully my opinion will help future readers of this thread.

 

Also, I've owned the 500 for 10 years and didn't know I could overwrite all of the models until reading this thread.

 

To chime in, I have owned and used, and still use a Variax 500 (the Original Variax) since approx. 2005.  At that time the V700 had been out, and the V300 and V600 were just out and replacing the V500, which I got on clearance at my local GC.

 

Just got a JTV-69, CA Red, used and pristine (manuf. 3/2012), V2.0 models, at a local GC, at about 1/2 price of new.

 

So far I think it is an upgrade to the V500 w/ mags, better battery and management, locking tuners, additional selectable tunings.

 

Bottom line, I would have put my money into a current-generation Variax (like the OP did) rather than buy a previous-gen.  I think the current-gen is a better guitar.  I do plan to keep the V500, its still a versatile and in some ways inspiring axe.  But I would reach for the JTV first.  :)

 

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Variax:  JTV-69 (manuf. 3/2012), Variax 500 (manuf. ~2003)

Amplifier:  DT50 Head, Mesa Rectifier 2x12 (v30s)

Modellers:  POD HD500

Other:   Fender Strat HSS, MIM (~2012), Taylor 614ce (2011), Taylor 315ce (2010)

 





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