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My New G90 Wireless - Firmware, Battery Life & Pouch For Mounting To Straps Or Belts


Best Answer Jesman1 , 19 March 2014 - 03:55 PM

Hey guys,

 

Yes that original link (yours) to the pouch is the right one!

 

So after using the G90 for a while now all I can say is- I LOVE THIS WIRELESS!!

Don`t know what the deal was with the 1st set of batteries but after depleting those and putting in different ones- the battery life with the G90 is amazing really. I don`t play huge stages so I run it in low power mode. Nice that it also shows battery life on the receiver!

 

I did order an extra transmitter to use when I play 1/2 step down tuned songs. I figure it`d be much faster on stage than the hassle of swapping either straps or the transmitter off the strap! Just turn one off and turn the other on. Both would be plugged into guitars, transmitters on the straps- ready to go. I`m now using it with that little Lowepro pouch. You`re right, perfect fit and it`s nice that you can attach it to a guitar strap. I find that it does want to slide down the strap too low, hec about to the guitar itself. So after some thinking of a good way to hold it higher, but not permanently (I have quite a few guitars!)- I came up with using the clip from a retractible tape measure. I put it on the strap under the transmitter to help it NOT slide down. Not perfect but its better. I ordered another Lowepro pouch for the new transmitter so I should be all good soon. They did send me the wrong one on this 2nd order, but said they`ll send me (hopefully) the right one out as a replacement.

 

I cut a square out on the bottom for access to the power tab. Convenient now!

Thanks for all the correspondance and tips~

 

Jeff

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#1 Jesman1

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 01:44 AM

I took the plunge after years of not doing the wireless thing for years (decades, my last was a Nady 201!).

 

Bought it new from Guitar Center but soon realized it`s actually not the latest version from reading about it on here.

Having a choice of what main band or mode doesn`t bug me, it still has 12 or so channels to choose if needed, and I used it for the 1st time at the last casino gig. Worked fine and I love the build quality of both the transmitter and receiver! What I do wish it had (even in an earlier model) is an adjustable level output, my cheap Nady even had one. Not to say that I noticed any real gain change but still would be nice. I think I read somewhere here that with an update I could get that feature but I REALLY would want to send it back to Line6 for that (if that`s possible). I mean it has display color options and contrast but no output adjustment?!

 

I also have a concern over battery life in the transmitter. I put in brand new Duracell batteries and turned it off during breaks (conserve!) and by the 3rd and last set I noticed the green LEDs on the receiver were down to two. Two?! It`s only been in use for 2 hours! Time wise, what do the last two green bars represent on the receiver? I`ve read here that maybe some transmitters have an issue with going through batteries and I hope mine isn`t one of those. I used it in LOW power mode. Aren`t you supposed to get up to 8 hours? I know, maybe asking for much out of two AAs but that`s what it says!- heh

 

Thanks for any info~

 

Jeff- Lakewood,WA

 

 


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 08:30 AM

Hi Jeff

 

Glad you like it.  You shouldn't need to adjust the output as it will be exactly the same as the output from your guitar if you had used a cable.  Actually there is an output level adjustment in software (v2.x) but if you boost the level you also add noise by that same amount (same as all wireless).  I would advise against using it except in emergencies.

 

The LEDs are only general battery life info.  What did it say on the LCD (hours)?  The digital readout is accurate to about 20 minutes



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 05:32 PM

I've just come to this in my break after rigging for tonight's New Year gig, Jeff...

 

…And thought it might possibly be handy to spend a little time expanding on Don's (typically excellent and concise) reply.

 

...What I do wish it had (even in an earlier model) is an adjustable level output, my cheap Nady even had one. Not to say that I noticed any real gain change but still would be nice. I think I read somewhere here that with an update I could get that feature but I REALLY would want to send it back to Line6 for that (if that`s possible)...

 

As Don's indicated, there are very few of us who would actually bother performing that upgrade, …as I feel that (leaving aside the few additional features we might gain) your "gut feeling" regarding the complexities involved is fully justified.  

 

You'd need an XD-V75 receiver (maybe borrowed ?) that you'd use as an "updater" to re-flash both your G90 receiver and its companion TBP12 beltpack with the latest firmware, which would indeed not only grant you access to its extra options, but also access to Line 6's newer RF2 scheme of frequencies.

 

That RF2 scheme was largely created with a view to enabling full interoperability "in and around" WiFi set-ups, with the added possibility of two more channels being available. 

 

The main "snag" is that it's best to run the whole "Line 6 Monkey" online update process via broadband, with no nearby WiFi, Bluetooth or other 2.4GHz radiation.

 

Aside from Line 6's "how to" videos via YouTube, here are three excellent step by step documents that'll give you a fuller picture:

 

http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2645

 

http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2583

 

http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2650

 

So you're absolutely right in thinking that it would be much better to arrange for (or bribe) your friendly local Line 6 representative to perform the updates for you …and I happen to think that you have the "moral high ground" over your supplier, (Guitar Center) in the (IMHO) unlikely event you'd actually bother going that route.

 

...I also have a concern over battery life in the transmitter. I put in brand new Duracell batteries and turned it off during breaks (conserve!) and by the 3rd and last set I noticed the green LEDs on the receiver were down to two…  

 

...Aren`t you supposed to get up to 8 hours? I know, maybe asking for much out of two AAs but that`s what it says!- heh...

 

Sadly, Jeff...

 

…Even though I only ever source from high turnover and reputable outlets (that are highly unlikely to supply the counterfeit stock that IS out there) …and I never use anything other than premium Energizer and/or Duracell Alkaline AAs... 

 

...I have still suffered the occasional instances of 

  1. An entire "batch" of batteries from those truly reputable makers having had their lives severely reduced by arriving "pre-cooked" (heat exposure) somewhere in the supply chain   …and...
  2. A very rare "dud" single battery effectively "killing" the pair.  

The "good news" being that (as Don's indicated) Line 6's "fuel gauge" is one of the most effective of all for "working around" the occasional appearance of these issues …and that my Line 6 TBP12 beltpacks typically run for over seven continuous hours at full power, or all the way from sunrise to sunset (or dusk to dawn) when being switched off between "sessions".   


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:33 PM

First off, thanks for the quick replies (and from experts too)!

 

Yeah, I don`t think I need (or will ever need) the additional RF operating frequencies as I don`t use the wireless at home to mess with home WiFi. The output level was fine and like Don said, the same output as using a cord- so all is well.

Turning up or down the volume knob on the guitar worked well, gain wise/control over sound (roll back for less distortion). So that`s cool, I was impressed.

 

I don`t remember what the transmitter showed in minutes remaining. I`ll pay attention next time I pop in new batteries and keep ya posted. That gig was three 1 hour sets with 1/2 hour breaks, so yeah, I turned off the transmitter during break times (conserve)- heh.

 

Nice job Line6 on this G90. Several guitar players made comments on my FaceBook that read something like this: "Line6 bought out X2 wireless, made improvements and the Relays are the [awesome] result", "These are the best wireless for guitar", "I have this exact one and it smokes all others", "Best wireless I`ve ever used- hands down".

 

So yeah, I think I bought a winner here. I was impressed with the build quality initially. Receiver was substantial, had some weight to it. It was feature packed without looking stupid or tacky. Front and rear antenna options. The transmitter is metal with stratigically placed rubber grips, snub nose antenna, and lots of features. This is what users want in this price range and glad things weren`t skimped on!


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:51 PM

...So yeah, I think I bought a winner here….

 

I can unequivocally guarantee that you did, Jeff !

 

Now, ...try this for a New Year's resolution:

 

Splash out a few bucks for one of these http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B00012FVY2/ to protect your beltpack.

 

All you need do is scissor-cut a pair of holes in the bottom for your beltpack's connector and antenna, and you'll have "tailor-made" protection from scrapes, shock and moisture, in addition to having obtained not only security for the battery hatch, but also doubly secure and easy attachment to your either your strap, your belt, or to the instrument itself. 


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Posted 04 January 2014 - 02:30 AM

I`ll check that out. Thanks for the lead Ron!

 

And I`ll keep ya posted on my next battery test results. Oh hec, what am I complaing about? Even if I get [only] one night out of 2 AA`s, it`s still cheaper than a Duracell 9 volt. I used to get those on base for a dollar a piece  ...well not anymore.

 

I thought the battery hatch was pretty good, I don`t know what some users are griping about (maybe lower lines use a different transmitter and door?). You have to consciously make effort to open it, pushing that little tip in and sliding.

Then again I`m not the crazy antic guitarist I used to be, banging into stuff with reckless abandon and throwing my guitar around. I`ve mellowed with age...


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Posted 04 January 2014 - 02:35 AM

Clicked on that link and that pouch is too tall, it said it was 15 inches (I think).

Maybe this one:

 

http://www.amazon.co...=pd_sim_sbs_p_6


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Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:25 AM

Here are the correct figures for LowePro's cheap and brilliant little Rezo 10, Jeff:

 

Internal dimensions: 2.8 x 1.4 x 4.7 inches

 

As it happens, I also use their "raincoat equipped" Apex series (the other link you quoted) for belt-mounting various bits of kit, such as my compact Lumix camera and my Petzl headworn flashlight, along with a Bluetooth handsfree earpiece, ...but I feel that it would be nowhere near as easy to modify for transmitters as the Rezo 10's that regularly house my eight TBP 12 beltpacks.

 

...I thought the battery hatch was pretty good, I don`t know what some users are griping about...

 

Believe me when I say that the little swing door very quickly ceases to be "pretty good" when it's been bumped against something, spilling the AAs onto the stage !  :(

 

To my mind, battery access is the entire XD-V transmitter range's only Achilles' heel, but one that's

  1. Very easy to solve and
  2. Extremely easy to forgive in the light of Line 6's truly exceptional "bang for buck" equation. 

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 02:39 AM

I just might have to pick me up one those handy dandy pouches. Thanks for the heads up!

 

What, do you have that many guitars ready to use on stage at once?- lol

I`m thinking of maybe getting one more transmitter, but shoot, they cost like $200 bucks U.S.!


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 06:24 AM

I do regularly have cause to pouch mount transmitters onto the straps of an acoustic, an electric and a bass, Jeff...

 

...But no, I don't own any guitars.

 

I do, however, find that having to rapidly "dress" six to eight headworn miked participants for a conference is made a whole lot easier by such things as the LowePro Rezo 10, the Tune Belt Vertical Mic Belt and Line 6's uniquely rotatable belt clip on their beltpack transmitters. 

 

BTW, if you think the additional TBP12 beltpack's pricey, anything else that compares in terms of audio quality and ruggedness costs a whole lot more.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 03:55 PM   Best Answer

Hey guys,

 

Yes that original link (yours) to the pouch is the right one!

 

So after using the G90 for a while now all I can say is- I LOVE THIS WIRELESS!!

Don`t know what the deal was with the 1st set of batteries but after depleting those and putting in different ones- the battery life with the G90 is amazing really. I don`t play huge stages so I run it in low power mode. Nice that it also shows battery life on the receiver!

 

I did order an extra transmitter to use when I play 1/2 step down tuned songs. I figure it`d be much faster on stage than the hassle of swapping either straps or the transmitter off the strap! Just turn one off and turn the other on. Both would be plugged into guitars, transmitters on the straps- ready to go. I`m now using it with that little Lowepro pouch. You`re right, perfect fit and it`s nice that you can attach it to a guitar strap. I find that it does want to slide down the strap too low, hec about to the guitar itself. So after some thinking of a good way to hold it higher, but not permanently (I have quite a few guitars!)- I came up with using the clip from a retractible tape measure. I put it on the strap under the transmitter to help it NOT slide down. Not perfect but its better. I ordered another Lowepro pouch for the new transmitter so I should be all good soon. They did send me the wrong one on this 2nd order, but said they`ll send me (hopefully) the right one out as a replacement.

 

I cut a square out on the bottom for access to the power tab. Convenient now!

Thanks for all the correspondance and tips~

 

Jeff


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 05:10 PM

Here are some (overdue, ...sorry) snaps of one of my LowePro Rezo 10 pouches in its beltpack configuration.

 

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:28 AM

Ron! Thanks for the Rezo 10 pictures.

I ordered four Rezo 10 pouches because of your recommendation and wondered how to cut out the bottom for antenna and TA4F plug.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:36 PM

I'm glad they helped.

 

While the outer material and lining of these LowePro pouches is very rugged, it's quite easy to "pinch" the narrow "floor" of their Rezo 10 "in half", whereby it's really easy to cut a pair of semi-circles (matching the connector and antenna-stub diameters) using nothing more fancy than a small pair of sharp scissors, such as "thread nippers" or those "surgical" types for bathrooms.

 

(I used the scissors built in to my Leatherman "Charge".)

 

As with "paper art", the "unfolding" of those cut semicircles will reveal the fully circular holes.


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