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#81 NucleusX

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 08:15 PM

It is only "untrue" in the case of firmware updates, not downloadable content. There are no choices

in firmware updates, you get what you get and too bad if you don't like it, your stuck with it. I'm

particularly referring to the model packs that used to be the norm for Line6 before the HD series

and right now, there are no "choices" in that department.


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#82 johnnyayyy

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 08:53 PM

I'm particularly referring to the model packs that used to be the norm for Line6 before the HD series

 

"Norm"...?

 

Line 6 has sold lots and lots of different products over the years, how many allowed us to purchase/add model packs?

 

I can only think of a couple...


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#83 NucleusX

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:02 PM

Really ? your going to try and debunk me with that ? LOL smh.

Try looking through the older POD iterations, nothing else.

I'm starting to think half these people work for Line6 and all

they wanna do is reduce our justified expectations to zero.

I think its perfectly fine to argue these points, you won't gain

anything by saying "I'm a completely happy sheep" lol

Anyways, I'm done.


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Posted 23 February 2014 - 11:02 PM

Hmm... I'm a closet amp-model-wannabe? So true ;)

 

Actually... Instead of making us to buy some kinda amp model pack, they gave us few for free in last update. But even that wasn't really my point.

 

The point (one of them) is, I believe that suggesting new amp-model after just 30 earlier ones is not that kind of new idea that ideascale was made for. So making noise in here about how people in there ignore amp suggestions appears a bit unuseful for me.

 

And the side story about mark V mode, which actually needs 5, not one amp model, made the perfectionist (or the person, who really, really, really likes comma's a lot) in me wake up.

 

I also believe (been doing lots of believing lately. How un-me) that being "a completely happy sheep" can gain me a lot. By sending a message telling that i'm happy about the product, i may help Line6 free its resources from fruitless effort of making 999888777666555 amp models to something way more important.

 

Yes. Amp models are important, as we all really are using modeling tools. But it just may be, that developing fresh new ideas is somewhat more important. After all, the idea of amp model is already old one and people already know, how to create them.


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#85 NucleusX

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 12:02 AM

Anyone that's "a completely happy sheep" shouldn't even be in this thread to begin with.

This thread is for people who "aren't completely happy" and those of you who are happy

don't help the purpose of this thread, which is to possibly expand our choices and seem

to just want to be here to argue and frustrate others wether on purpose or not. HOORAY!

for me, I unwillingly got an extra X preamps in the last firmware update that I will NEVER

use. Not every amp has to be modelled, only the ones that seem to have a high demand

like the 5150 or the Engl Powerball, We're not asking for millions ! Think about it, there

are still some landmark amps the HD can't replicate already, and to not have that

"choice" there for their best POD yet, seems ridiculous to some, nothing wrong with that.


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 03:17 AM

I won't be happy until they include one of these:

 

Attached File  pnslide1.jpg   8.35KB   2 downloads

 

If you lay it face down, it does early Scorpions  :lol: 


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#87 WaubinHood

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 06:17 AM

Hmm... I wish someone told our obviously North-Korean members, that the liberty of speech is commonly in use in our western countries. That's why even unwanted opinions get published, no matter how much it bugs our Jongs or Sungs.

 

Another western thing is called "democracy". Funny enough, it works even in marketing. Lets take an example out of imagination:

 

There is one person, let's name him mr J, wanting.. what could it be? Oh yes! An amp model for popuar effect device (now where did i get that idea?) . On the other side is 10000 mr X's, who have also made their requests. To mr J's great suprise, they never mentioned mr J's favourite. So there can happen the huge unjust for one - obviously extremely important - human and instead of making 10000 people unhappy, someone makes just one unhappy.

 

Next phase could be the one, where our frustrated mr J starts throwing insults around and could call people being sheeps for being happy when gotten just what they wanted. For that we need a tool, where that can happen anonymously. And so someone invents a tool for it. After putting some thought on it, he names it "Internet" ;)


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#88 stumblinman

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:07 AM

Perhaps Mr. J should just buy the amp he wants if he's not satisfied when he buys something else, knowing full well that said amp is not included? I bought a Volkswagen Rabbit the other day, and Volkswagen hasn't turned it into a Jetta for me yet. Boycott! Air my impotent frustration into the void that is the internet! You upgraded my Rabbit to a Beetle for free, but when I ask for a Jetta, my pleas fall on deaf ears. I will never buy your vehicles again!
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#89 gunpointmetal

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:16 AM

Nobody is asking for new hardware, which your example would illustrate, if it was what was being talked about.  


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:17 AM

I won't be happy until they include one of these:
 
attachicon.gifpnslide1.jpg
 
If you lay it face down, it does early Scorpions  :lol:



Lol...
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#91 Mr_Arkadin

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:17 AM


I'm starting to think half these people work for Line6 and all

they wanna do is reduce our justified expectations to zero.

 

Ah, the old "if you don't agree with my opinion you must be a corporate stooge" line.

 

Cheap at best.


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#92 cruisinon2

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:22 AM

I want L6 to pay me to use their amps...and a pony. I will accept no endorsement deals that don't include a pony.
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#93 ColonelForbin

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:27 AM

-DT+JTV acoustic-model-friendly preamp / amp option.

 

Right now, when using the L6Link with a JTV to the DT, the acoustic tones require some serious manipulation of the patch parameters.

 

It would be great to have an option to have a clean / straight forward "preamp" option, where the DT power settings are more closely configured to emulate a flat response standard power amp.

 

Something akin to plugging your JTV directly into the fx return on the back of the DT, but while keeping the same basic setup as would exist when using VDI>HD500>L6Link>DT25.


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:35 AM

Dunno 'bout others, but if i needed some kinda acoustic amp, i'd try to make one by not using amp model at all and using one of them eq:s ("graphic" maybe) as pre-amp.

 

That sort of works; but when using L6Link from the HD to a DT, if you only have one amp model (instead of dual), and you define that amp block as 'no amp', the pre-amp then defaults to whatever channel the DT is set to.

 

radtats came up with a quite clever bypass to this; though and actual dedicated model that would 'play nice' with the JTV acoustics is what I think most peeps here are referring to.

 

rads idea, was you define a patch with dual amp models. Make one of them "Amp -x", (in his scenario, he used the flip top). Turn that amp to "mute" in the mixer. Then the second amp model, which is defined as "no amp" becomes the main signal level control. It's all been detailed in other posts by radatats. I briefly toyed with the idea of creating acoustic patches using the FX loop, befpre amp model block, out to go to the DT fx return; but the two amp / mute channel idea seems to accomplish the same basic end result, without resorting to extra D/A and A/D conversions, and without needing extra 1/4" cables in the mix.


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:35 AM

@Mr_Arkadin, ahh the Line6 expert defender, there to save the day so he can get more free crap from Line6 lol. And IM cheap ?

                         You've been biased and sold out since day one of joining this forum ! Love the new name for this thread btw lol.


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#96 Mr_Arkadin

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:43 AM

@Mr_Arkadin, ahh the Line6 expert defender, there to save the day so he can get more free crap from Line6 lol. And IM cheap ?

                         You've been biased and sold out since day one of joining this forum !

 

No, I'm defending the right for people to have a different opinion to you and not be accused of something they are not. You know nothing of me. Again another cheap shot from you.


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#97 NucleusX

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:48 AM

If you can give it, you can take it buddy. LOL and the man took a point off me, how's that for freedom of speech.


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#98 cruisinon2

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:52 AM

OK...lets settle this once and for all. Everybody drop your pants and get a tape measure...and remember, we're on the honor system here, gents.
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#99 NucleusX

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:56 AM

Lmao @ cruisinon, aight gloves are off, put em up!


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