I almost have the funds to add an L3s to my L3t's and M20d (the G.A.S. is killing me!). Does it sound better on its side or standing up, or is there a difference? I want to know which pole I should get with it.
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:50 AM
I wouldn't expect much of a sound difference. I think the main difference is overall space configuration. On its side there are two pole mount holes so you can place two speakers, in stereo, on top of the L3s. Standing straight up there's only one mount hole, so you could do that to save floor space beneath the L3s on one side of the stage while placing a second/stereo top on the other side of the stage.
Personally, I use a short pole with an L3t mounted on my L3s standing vertically, and a second L3t mounted on a tripod stand (I only use one L3s) about 10 ft. away (more or less depending on the circumstances) for L/R separation.
Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:23 PM
I wouldn't expect much of a sound difference. I think the main difference is overall space configuration...
I'd go as further than silverhead in saying that I don't believe there's any difference at all in response, as perceived by a listener who's on axis to a StageSource rig...
...it's a physical fact that overall bass dispersion will be wider horizontally and narrower vertically with twin drivers "stacked" (standing up) than it will be with them arranged side by side, ...as they would be when an L3s is lying horizontally.
While it will often prove irrelevant in practice, this fact can definitely be handy when seeking to "tame" some particularly troublesome "whoomp" and "boom" reflections from either low ceilings, (stand the rig up) or those from the too-near side walls of "shoe box shaped, end-stage" auditoriums, where lying the subs down may well improve matters to an amazing extent.
Be aware that the "short" poles basically "lock" the two cabinets together, effectively disappearing inside a really elegant and practical stack, whereas longer ones (particularly those with crank mechanisms, such as this http://produkte.k-m....k9vnvgoae5ib8g6 ) can be invaluable for elevating mid tops above floor-mounted subs.
You'll also find what I believe to be a very informative discussion of mounting hardware at the end of this topic:
Posted 19 January 2014 - 09:33 AM
Thanks for the input gentlemen! I was originally considering a similar setup to what Silverhead uses but wanted to see what others had done before committing. Based on the typical locations we play - small bars with small stages and low ceilings - space is a big consideration for us and I will go with the original plan. So the short pole it is at least for now.
Ron, as usual, your input was very informative.
Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:59 PM
You're very welcome ...and the warmth of your response is also very much appreciated.
Just a thought...
...When trying to squeeze into the (often unreasonable) spaces allocated to us, don't ever forget that the Line 6 Link and the StageSource system's automatic positional sensing can combine to allow a vast variation in the way its components can be "scattered" around troublesome venues.
This can often yield uniquely successful rigs that seem truly weird and "off the wall" in more ways than one, ...with subs that have "disappeared" from stage by being parked under bars and benches and/or "around the corner" from the performance space !
Posted 19 January 2014 - 03:10 PM
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