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#1 gunpointmetal

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 06:33 AM

saw the UK posts of the new amp...meh....HD amps in StageSource tech....not exactly a reinvention.

 

And I can't post the links from the UK stores that already have it up on this forum...can't link, can't paste....can't be done. Check out sevenstring.org or the thegearpage for pics and specs.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:03 AM

Been googling as you suggested, and a blurb/product description they copied/asted on the metalguitarist.org says "more than 70 AMPS and 100 effects". If it is based on the HD platform we could see a REAL firmware update doubling our available amp count. That would pretty spectacular.

 

Hopefully it's not another marketing flub like the "double the power" adds we were seeing for the HD X series, which only turned out to be 20% more power, not 100% more. :P


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:14 AM

AmpliFi ad @ WoodBrassLINE6+AMPLIFI+150.JPG


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:17 AM

links... but kind of dead with small pics:

 

http://www.thomann.d...amplifi_150.htm

http://www.thomann.d..._amplifi_75.htm

 

i didnt see anything that said HD amp models...

http://www.woodbrass...ns&siteid=87697


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:18 AM

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The AMPLIFi is not a conventional amplifier. It delivers every note with amazing precision thanks to a revolutionary stereo system 5 speakers.

Specifications
• 150W
• Speakers Celestion 12 " custom
• 2 woofers
• 2 tweeters
• Input Guitar 6.35 mm and AUX 3.5mm stereo
• Headphone output of 6.35 mm
• Functions Tap Tempo / Tuner
• 4 internal memory (access to an unlimited number of presets with the application)

• Effects Stereo (Wet / Dry) creating a perfect sound immersion

• Compatible with FBV MkII Line 6

• USB connection
• Streaming audio via Bluetooth (compatible with Android , iOS and Mac or PC).

Application " amplification " (iOS compatible)
• More than 70 amps, 100 effects and 20 pregnant
• 8 effects simultaneously available
• Remote- amp settings to tweak the sound
• Automatic selection of the guitar sound depending on the selected song in your library
• Access to thousands of sounds online
• Sharing and evaluation of sounds in the Cloud
• Archiving and Backup an unlimited number of presets in the Cloud

• Compatible with iPod touch (4th and 5th generation ), iPhone 5 , iPhone 4S , iPhone 4, iPad ( 3rd and 4th generation ) , iPad 2, iPad mini and iPad.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:20 AM

links... but kind of dead with small pics:

 

http://www.thomann.d...amplifi_150.htm

http://www.thomann.d..._amplifi_75.htm

 

i didnt see anything that said HD amp models...

http://www.woodbrass...ns&siteid=87697

 

No FX Loop or L6 link stated.. Yet. If not.. This is a flop for those that want to integrate their POD units.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:21 AM

Don't think its intended to be integrated anywhere... it's its own thing.

 

No FX Loop or L6 link stated.. Yet. If not.. This is a flop for those that want to integrate their POD units.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:23 AM

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• More than 70 amps, 100 effects and 20 pregnant

 

Line 6 set to increase birth rate! Love it. :D


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:24 AM

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The AMPLIFi is not a conventional amplifier...

Application " amplification " (iOS compatible)
• More than 70 amps, 100 effects and 20 pregnant

 

And best of all, this amp can reproduce!!! Pair it with another of it's kind, and soon you will have 20 PREGNANT amps!! lol, best typo describing an amp ever! ;)


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:25 AM

Don't think its intended to be integrated anywhere... it's its own thing.

 

I'll pass, then. Line 6 hasn't reinvented anything.. But I'll hold further speculation till further and official release of specs, etc.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:26 AM

Looks like pod plus full range Amp since it has tweeters in it.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:26 AM

I agree at this point...

I would like to see what it can do though... 

#marketingfail

 

I'll pass, then. Line 6 hasn't reinvented anything.. But I'll hold further speculation till further and official release of specs, etc.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:28 AM

I like separate pod so it would not interest me.  Plus I already have a pod500x and a Full Range PA Speaker to play it through.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:29 AM

I agree at this point...

I would like to see what it can do though... 

#marketingfail

 

Agreed there. Just a bummer. Had they released something like Mission and released it at similar pricing to what this is and add L6 Link.. They would have been gold.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:33 AM

for alot of us surely...

 

i think that's where their marketing really fails... quite simply i don't think this is for us, anymore than last years mixer stuff was...

rather than "reinventing the guitar amp" it should have been "reinventing the way you learn" or something...

since it clearly seems to be for those that want to play along with the tracks....

i'd say this is more like a new spider jam, than anything that reinvents for the gigging/recording musician.

 

Agreed there. Just a bummer. Had they released something like Mission and released it at similar pricing to what this is and add L6 Link.. They would have been gold.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:35 AM

for alot of us surely...

 

i think that's where their marketing really fails... quite simply i don't think this is for us, anymore than last years mixer stuff was...

rather than "reinventing the guitar amp" it should have been "reinventing the way you learn" or something...

since it clearly seems to be for those that want to play along with the tracks....

i'd say this is more like a new spider jam, than anything that reinvents for the gigging/recording musician.

 

Couldn't agree more on that. Lets hope the Mission FRFR is priced reasonably. Gonna be a few weeks till we find out, probably.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:36 AM

Well the description says "70 amps and over 100 effects" and further down it says "up to 8 simultaneous effects". While they may not have used the buzz-word "HD", that sounds like POD HD routing to me. I could be wrong of course, but reading between the lines it sounds like POD HD software to me. I'm burnin' to know what all those other amp models are!


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:37 AM

Well the description says "70 amps and over 100 effects" and further down it says "up to 8 simultaneous effects". While they may not have used the buzz-word "HD", that sounds like POD HD routing to me. I could be wrong of course, but reading between the lines it sounds like POD HD software to me. I'm burnin' to know what all those other amp models are!

 

IF it is HD modeling in it.. I MIGHT consider it. I'd also think that they would release more amps for the HD line.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:38 AM

saw the UK posts of the new amp...meh....HD amps in StageSource tech....not exactly a reinvention.

 

given the price and some specs, to me it seems more probably to be X3 amps/Fxs loaded into a Stagesource, with iphone connectivity added


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:39 AM

Hopefully it's not another marketing flub like the "double the power" adds we were seeing for the HD X series, which only turned out to be 20% more power, not 100% more. :P

 

That was a translated adveret that leaked before an official announcement.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:41 AM

If it's X3 amps, that would boggle my mind. Seriously. I can feel my mind imploding at the very thought of that premise.

 

And yes,  it was a mis-translation, but again, we're quoting some UK website for the tech specs, so it could be another one of those cases where they got the description wrong.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:42 AM

If there are 70 HD amps I'd probably wet myself!!  :wacko:

 

Then go buy one :lol:


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:43 AM

If there are 70 HD amps I'd probably wet myself!!  :wacko:

 

Then go buy one :lol:

 

Agreed! LOL

 

And they did say that it was Pregnant. That almost makes me question the integrity of anything they have up to a degree.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:43 AM

the x3 amps wouldn't surprise me... many of the current standalone amp models use pod 2.0 models...

so the x series models would be a jump up.

 

If it's X3 amps, that would boggle my mind. Seriously. I can feel my mind imploding at the very thought of that premise.

 

And yes,  it was a mis-translation, but again, we're quoting some UK website for the tech specs, so it could be another one of those cases where they got the description wrong.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:46 AM

On another note.. If I wanted to use the Shortboard with an amp (like it is looking like this will accept).. I'd go pick up one of the early Atomic Reactor amps off E-Bay and make sure it has the POD insert.. Then get the POD HD desktop model. That whole setup would likely only cost $200 more than this amp if bought new (and the Atomic Reactor used).. Probably just as cheap if you bought it all used.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:46 AM

given the price and some specs, to me it seems more probably to be X3 amps/Fxs loaded into a Stagesource, with iphone connectivity added

 

If it is X3, perhaps the 8 simultaneous is from the dual tone capability??


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:48 AM

This is taken from another forum.. Take it with a grain of salt.

 

"That and the Line 6 rep stating something along the lines of if this isn't what you were hoping for, just wait. There was an implication that more would be released yet this year."


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:58 AM

about 2hrs until NAMM starts, and we find out one way or another what this is. An X3 in a FRFR enclosure would be such a let down! lol I mean, they almost kinda already did that with the Vetta II, didn't they?! lol

 

And I still maintain that the last firmware update where they introduced the SLO 100 was about a year and a half ago (the original drop for the 300/400 was, and very little new was added to the drop for the bean/500/pro in OCT, so I don't count that date as significant) so a whole slew of new HD models seems feasible to me, even if it may only turn out to be wishful thinking.

 

... A guy can hope, can't he? lol

 

If a single dude at fractal can come up with new models for the axe practically every other week in his basement (hyperbole/exaggeration. It's the internet; have a sense of humour whydoncha?) I believe line 6 can come up with 30+ new amp models in 18+ months! :D


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:08 AM

It just looks like a modern wi-fi, cloud enabled boom-box! without the dual cassette feature...

But, can it hold it's own next to the mighty Sharp GF777!? ;)

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:15 AM

I think building that type of hype for what appears to be a mid/entry level product is counter productive.  The ones that hang on every word of this type of announcement and get excited are more of the hard core users.  This just gets us excited and then lets us down.  

 

Maybe I'm wrong, it's not like I have a degree in marketing or anything, but I just don't think building it up like that was a good idea.  If they just announced it at NAMM without dangling the carrot out there for weeks I would probably think it's a pretty cool product.  Not something I'd be interested in per se, but still a cool concept.  Now I'm just really let down and want to see what other companies are coming out with instead :)


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:15 AM

AMPLIFi. That name must have cost them millions.
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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:28 AM

On another note.. If I wanted to use the Shortboard with an amp (like it is looking like this will accept).. I'd go pick up one of the early Atomic Reactor amps off E-Bay and make sure it has the POD insert.. Then get the POD HD desktop model. That whole setup would likely only cost $200 more than this amp if bought new (and the Atomic Reactor used).. Probably just as cheap if you bought it all used.

 

I used to own one of the early Atomic Reactor amps - the 18W version. I used it with the XT. It was OK, but it really didn't compare to a real amp. It was not even in the same league as the DT25 in that regards. One of the problems was that it couldn't decide what it wanted to be. It was designed to be a flat response, and it was. But it was missing the second half of the equation in that it wasn't full frequency because it lacked a tweeter. It's interesting that the current Atomic products do incorporate tweeters in their design.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:34 AM

I think building that type of hype for what appears to be a mid/entry level product is counter productive.

 

Totally agree, but then again, I'm not in marking!!

 

At least the xt and HD lived up to the hype for me.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:39 AM

wifi in the amp seems like a cool idea. Along with the usual performance anxiety, you now need to worry about standing on front of a room full of smartphone video cameras and internet connections while everyone within a blocks radius is trying to hack your amp..
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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:41 AM

from what I see Line 6 has just created an iOS platform amp.  This is not POD HD, its an iOS app with a dedicated cab.  Hence all the references to the cloud and sharing sounds etc.  Interesting to see what happens if you have a Droid.  I wonder if the actual software and OS is in the cab or if it just receives the signal from your iPhone, iPod (?), iPad, etc...  What a let down...


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:45 AM

I don't believe that the Atomic amps had enough headroom to properly handle the models either.  You want an amp that will faithfully reproduce the modeled tones at high volume.  This means lots of clean headroom as well as full range flat speaker system.  Maybe Line6 has done this well?


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:47 AM

It would make sense if it was like a Pod with FRFR. The cloud and streaming services just replace what you can do via the usb link with the current Pod and the FRFR would make it much better as a play-along tool than a standard amp. Price seems about right for that kind of tech.

 

If it really is 70 amps, though, they better share them with the rest of us and not just use them as an Amplifi marketing tool.

 

Anyway, NAMM starts in about 15 minutes, so we probably don't have long to wait.

 

Edit: Oops, my bad; there's another hour to go yet.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:09 AM

Someone on the TGP downloaded the app, and posted screenshots of the amp model names, and they're all X3 names, so unless they've spent the last year and a half upgrading the X3 models with HD algorithms then this is effectively a VETTA II (yes a friggin vetta TWO!!?!) with a couple of tweeters and iphone app. What a @#$%ing joke!

 

Reinventing the guitar amp with a 10+ year old vetta II amp... Someone needs to give there head a shake and come back to reality... FFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.......


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:25 AM

Why can't a paste a fVckin link in here!?!?!

 

TGP has screen shots of the App.

 

X3 model names.

 

Boo!


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:44 AM

That's all?The reinvented amp? The super wow stuff? After, a lot of people accuse me and other members because we say hype....


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