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#1 ZombieDoctorZ

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:46 PM

Ok so I am considering purchasing the POD HD500X because I am looking for a multi-effects processor with many different options and the ability to have many different presets. But what I want to do is run the effects from the POD but still have my particular amplifiers tone.

 

Now I have a Bugera 333xl head with a B-52 4x12 cab, and I want to keep that tone and only use the POD for the effects.

 

I have seen and read about the 4 cable method and I have the ability to do that with my effects loop, but when I go onstage I usually have to setup quickly, so I was wondering if it's still possible to just plug the guitar into the POD and have the other cable go straight to the front of my Bugera head and use no amp tones (from the POD) and only the effects but I can't seem to find a straight answer out there. 

 

I am looking forward to your responses and thanks in advance for the help.  


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:59 AM

Yeak you can wire up the pod as you mentioned and just use the fx.In my opinion however, the pod is best at amp modelling, and the effects take second stage. I would be looking at something like the boss ME multieffects too, if I were you.

If you DO like the sound of the pod fx, the line6 m13 is basically just the effects part, or the hd300 contans the same fx as the 500x but is cheaper.
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#3 glorioso

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 03:24 AM

go 4 wire and buy a pdealsnake


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 04:51 AM

Ok so I am considering purchasing the POD HD500X because I am looking for a multi-effects processor with many different options and the ability to have many different presets. But what I want to do is run the effects from the POD but still have my particular amplifiers tone.

 

Now I have a Bugera 333xl head with a B-52 4x12 cab, and I want to keep that tone and only use the POD for the effects.

 

I have seen and read about the 4 cable method and I have the ability to do that with my effects loop, but when I go onstage I usually have to setup quickly, so I was wondering if it's still possible to just plug the guitar into the POD and have the other cable go straight to the front of my Bugera head and use no amp tones (from the POD) and only the effects but I can't seem to find a straight answer out there. 

 

I am looking forward to your responses and thanks in advance for the help.  

 

You can do that, but then you are stuck with having all your fx before the pre-amp in your head. Many fx, especially delay and reverb are best placed after the pre-amp. Exceptions being thins like a wah, or volume pedal. If the amp has an effects loop, you're gonna be better putting the POD in there, and plugging straight into your amp...get your basic tone first, then mess with effects. Just my $0.02.


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 05:37 AM

- but when I go onstage I usually have to setup quickly...

 

Take your 3 cables that will run to the amp and zip tie them together every 6 " so they act like one cable.  Mark the cables somehow, color tape, masking tape, labels, etc... so that you can quickly plug into the right jacks.  It only takes a second to plug in 3 cables vice 1 and your options rise dramatically along with your tone.  This will enable you to create various effect combinations based on the same standard patch configuration and also allow you to bypass your amp's pre section and use the POD's models if at some point you choose to do so.

 

Here is a link to a patch I created that lets you do the 4CM without using the POD's FX loop.  This introduces less noise into your signal and frees up another block for you to use.  I made this for Variax so if you are using a regular guitar, set input 2 to Guitar instead of Variax.  Set your POD Master to 1/2 at first and keep your amp master low until you get your levels set.  Do this at practice/rehearsal so you know exactly where to set them when you setup for your gig.

 

http://line6.com/cus...ne/tone/274440/

 

Guitar/Variax-->POD in-->Right Out-->Amp Guitar In-->Amp FX Out-->POD Aux In-->Left Out-->Amp FX In


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 10:03 AM

Yes you can totally set it up that way, guitar --> Pod --> Bugera. You can turn off the modeling and just use the effects, many of which will sound good in that set up.

 

Some effects like delay wont sound very good being in front of the amp's preamp. Then again, if you put the pod in the amp's loop, then the OD effects will sound like poop - they like to be out front.

 

That's what the 4 cable method does, allows you to put the effects before OR after the amp's preamp,


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:28 AM

I do it. I plug my Strat or Les Paul Studio into the 500X and then directly into the Fender Twin or Blues Junior for practice and for gigs. I wanted to replace a heavy and balky pedal board of 20-plus stomp boxes.
I break all the "rules." I used Direct Out because it sounds better to my ears, and I use a few of the amp models because they provide better distortion tones than some of the effects. Love the Bogner with drive around 35 or 40 percent!
It sounds great with my band and is easy to set up and break down. I have 15 or 20 patches that I use regularly, mostly switching between 4 or 5 of them during a gig. The biggest challenge will be setting the volume levels so they'll sound consistent between patches while playing loud with other instruments.
Go for it.
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